Scots-Irish

[McElmurry]

In both places most surnames came from given names, so you have largely unrelated clans on either side of the Irish sea that have the same name only because their founders had the same given name.

Devotees of Mary certainly fall into that category. The legend of the half-brother of Leod involves one Devotee of Mary who may be the first of one line of Morrisons. Here are two other examples of Son of Devotee of Mary from Ireland.

Marlborough also informs us that one Hugh Mac Giolla Mhuire, an Irishman, destroyed the Franciscan church in Carrickfergus prior to 1408, the year in which he was trapped and killed in the very same building by members of the Savage family. The latter were seeking revenge for deaths of their kinsmen, Patrick and his brother Richard, who were murdered in 1404 by one Adam Mac Giolla Mhuire after a ransom of two thousand marks had been paid. Patrick Savage, who previously served as seneschal of Ulster, may well have fallen into the Mac Giolla Mhuires' hands as a result of Sir Walter's defeat and death in the previous year. Richard was apparently acting as a pledge for his brother's ransom. [30]

A mandate of 1443 assigned ‘Matthew Machynerhynyd’ (Mathghamhain Mac an Oirchinnigh) the ‘perpetual vicarage of Bunrachtyd’ (sic Bunratty). The mandate also stipulated the removal of the incumbent priest named ‘John Macgillamurhyd’. [95] The ‘Macgillamurhyd’ sept (Mac Giolla Mhuire), [96] while not of local Dalcassian origin, held several appointments as parish clerics at Bunratty and Clonloghan during the fifteenth century; the name seems to have died out and does not appear in the seventeenth century records. [97]

[georgeetta]

I'll take a swing,

In 11th grade regents they called the Scots in Scotland the Scotch Irish it was to signify the NW folk the Irish ca what 500 AD that went into Scotland, St Columba ..I disagreed pointed out the multi cultural mix Vikings etc ..Irish, Picts, Britons ..well I got bad mark for being right he said he was going with what was in HIS book !

The Ulster Scotch was referred to the folks coming out of northern Ireland in the late 1700's into the early 1800's into the USA .

America was primarily English or German then, I know there was refernce to Scots being allowed to only settle north of New England near the Inidans as Scotland was a seperate country somehow . BUT many of the Roger's Rangers of New Hampshire were called Ulster Scotch and more confusingly Scotch Irish proabably wrongly .


Many of the US Presidents are called Scotch Irish they mean Ulster Scotch (or Scots) .

have to check a college elective text on American History .

yeah I heard about the NINA signs too ..my American Grandmother talked about them ..she was also a Clay (who married an Irish "grunny Fannie") and had no flaming idea she might be Scottish either !

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