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17th November 04, 05:05 AM
#181
Irish....
Re: folks asking if you are Irish when you are in a kilt
I get this a lot too down here in Missouri (and Southwest Missouri tae boot, where there isn't a large Irish population to begin with) -- I usually respond that at one time, the Scots were Irish -- The Scotti tribe came to Scotland from Ulster and "assimilated" the Picts to form what we know as Scotland, and Scottish Highlanders were sometimes called "Irish" by Europeans during the 1600's -- following Rigged's example.
I think the theory of the Irish Pipe Band is valid here -- Police and Fire dramas on the tele usually show the "Irishness" of big city police forces, complete with kilts and pipers. At least they're making the association! :mrgreen:
I've posted this one before, but I'll do it again: my best response to the "Are you Scottish?":
"You mean this isn't the Sons of Italy meeting?"
Cheers, 
T.
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17th November 04, 05:05 AM
#182
Irish....
Re: folks asking if you are Irish when you are in a kilt
I get this a lot too down here in Missouri (and Southwest Missouri tae boot, where there isn't a large Irish population to begin with) -- I usually respond that at one time, the Scots were Irish -- The Scotti tribe came to Scotland from Ulster and "assimilated" the Picts to form what we know as Scotland, and Scottish Highlanders were sometimes called "Irish" by Europeans during the 1600's -- following Rigged's example.
I think the theory of the Irish Pipe Band is valid here -- Police and Fire dramas on the tele usually show the "Irishness" of big city police forces, complete with kilts and pipers. At least they're making the association! :mrgreen:
I've posted this one before, but I'll do it again: my best response to the "Are you Scottish?":
"You mean this isn't the Sons of Italy meeting?"
Cheers, 
T.
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17th November 04, 05:05 AM
#183
Irish....
Re: folks asking if you are Irish when you are in a kilt
I get this a lot too down here in Missouri (and Southwest Missouri tae boot, where there isn't a large Irish population to begin with) -- I usually respond that at one time, the Scots were Irish -- The Scotti tribe came to Scotland from Ulster and "assimilated" the Picts to form what we know as Scotland, and Scottish Highlanders were sometimes called "Irish" by Europeans during the 1600's -- following Rigged's example.
I think the theory of the Irish Pipe Band is valid here -- Police and Fire dramas on the tele usually show the "Irishness" of big city police forces, complete with kilts and pipers. At least they're making the association! :mrgreen:
I've posted this one before, but I'll do it again: my best response to the "Are you Scottish?":
"You mean this isn't the Sons of Italy meeting?"
Cheers, 
T.
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17th November 04, 05:30 AM
#184
 Originally Posted by Rigged
...If you can't blind them with brilliance or baffle them with b.s., then bore them to tears with details.
Rigged, your the man!!!!!! This was a quote I learned in High School and I have lived by it for the last 30 years!
As far as your other response you are a true master of mental combat!
Richard-
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17th November 04, 05:30 AM
#185
 Originally Posted by Rigged
...If you can't blind them with brilliance or baffle them with b.s., then bore them to tears with details.
Rigged, your the man!!!!!! This was a quote I learned in High School and I have lived by it for the last 30 years!
As far as your other response you are a true master of mental combat!
Richard-
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17th November 04, 05:30 AM
#186
 Originally Posted by Rigged
...If you can't blind them with brilliance or baffle them with b.s., then bore them to tears with details.
Rigged, your the man!!!!!! This was a quote I learned in High School and I have lived by it for the last 30 years!
As far as your other response you are a true master of mental combat!
Richard-
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17th November 04, 07:02 AM
#187
 Originally Posted by Rigged
I don't know why, but sometimes people ask me if I'm Scottish (big black American guy with no discernable foreign accent). So, sometimes I answer, "Yes, I am."
Then they say, "You can't be Scottish!" To which I drone as dryly as possible, "My original family name is Ramsey, an Anglicisation of Ramsay of the Dalhousie Ramsays. Our clan leader is the Earl of Dalhousie at Brechin Castle in Angus, Scotland. Our family emblem is the unicorn and our family motto is 'Ora et Laborum' meaning 'Pray and Work'."
Halfway though my speach, their eyes have glazed over they're very sorry they brought it up.
In fact, my latest victim of the "Are you Scottish? You can't be Scottish!" monologue was at a housewarming party for one of my wife's co-workers.
The victim was a black woman who was English. After my speach, I added, "Seems I'm as Scottish as you are English."
She didn't come near me for the rest of the evening.
If you can't blind them with brilliance or baffle them with b.s., then bore them to tears with details.
You probably know more black history than I do, but weren't there moors in the British isles, perhaps even in Scotland? If so than you could be as Scottish as anyone else here, and even if there were'nt any, You are, at least, Scottish at heart.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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17th November 04, 07:02 AM
#188
 Originally Posted by Rigged
I don't know why, but sometimes people ask me if I'm Scottish (big black American guy with no discernable foreign accent). So, sometimes I answer, "Yes, I am."
Then they say, "You can't be Scottish!" To which I drone as dryly as possible, "My original family name is Ramsey, an Anglicisation of Ramsay of the Dalhousie Ramsays. Our clan leader is the Earl of Dalhousie at Brechin Castle in Angus, Scotland. Our family emblem is the unicorn and our family motto is 'Ora et Laborum' meaning 'Pray and Work'."
Halfway though my speach, their eyes have glazed over they're very sorry they brought it up.
In fact, my latest victim of the "Are you Scottish? You can't be Scottish!" monologue was at a housewarming party for one of my wife's co-workers.
The victim was a black woman who was English. After my speach, I added, "Seems I'm as Scottish as you are English."
She didn't come near me for the rest of the evening.
If you can't blind them with brilliance or baffle them with b.s., then bore them to tears with details.
You probably know more black history than I do, but weren't there moors in the British isles, perhaps even in Scotland? If so than you could be as Scottish as anyone else here, and even if there were'nt any, You are, at least, Scottish at heart.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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17th November 04, 07:02 AM
#189
 Originally Posted by Rigged
I don't know why, but sometimes people ask me if I'm Scottish (big black American guy with no discernable foreign accent). So, sometimes I answer, "Yes, I am."
Then they say, "You can't be Scottish!" To which I drone as dryly as possible, "My original family name is Ramsey, an Anglicisation of Ramsay of the Dalhousie Ramsays. Our clan leader is the Earl of Dalhousie at Brechin Castle in Angus, Scotland. Our family emblem is the unicorn and our family motto is 'Ora et Laborum' meaning 'Pray and Work'."
Halfway though my speach, their eyes have glazed over they're very sorry they brought it up.
In fact, my latest victim of the "Are you Scottish? You can't be Scottish!" monologue was at a housewarming party for one of my wife's co-workers.
The victim was a black woman who was English. After my speach, I added, "Seems I'm as Scottish as you are English."
She didn't come near me for the rest of the evening.
If you can't blind them with brilliance or baffle them with b.s., then bore them to tears with details.
You probably know more black history than I do, but weren't there moors in the British isles, perhaps even in Scotland? If so than you could be as Scottish as anyone else here, and even if there were'nt any, You are, at least, Scottish at heart.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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17th November 04, 07:14 AM
#190
Moors...
You probably know more black history than I do, but weren't there moors in the British isles, perhaps even in Scotland?
Don't know about Moors (I doubt it, though), but remember that quite a few West Indians and Africans immigrated to the UK because of the British Empire.
Cheers, 
T.
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