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9th July 05, 09:54 PM
#11
re: work and church
Work will refuse me entry, I will fight it and win and so have a paid holiday. I know the law and policy better than the security but it's not worth the hassle so far. I have to change into work clothes anyway so it would be just a show. Nearly happened a few years ago, when they introduced ITARS regulations but I was off anyway. You probably need to measure that one out carefully.
Church will surprise you, it did me. It has come up on other threads. Maybe they feel, because they are "brothers and sisters" they can be as loose as family. Be ready for that.
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10th July 05, 08:38 PM
#12
Welcome to the forum, and you look great in the kilt, congrats on your first outings, it gets better.
Now that I have experienced being in the USA kilted for the first time i feel I can relate better to all you US folk.
Reactions have been fine for me. A couple of places (Denver Museum today) I've been asked if I brought my bagpipes. the lady in question finally apologising for stereotyping me after I asked her if she brought her banjo (she was American, it was the first instrument with US associations I cold think of).
It gets better, the more you wear it.
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10th July 05, 09:17 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by Archangel
re: work and church
Church will surprise you, it did me. It has come up on other threads. Maybe they feel, because they are "brothers and sisters" they can be as loose as family. Be ready for that.
quoting myself, not too bad, eh. should point out that in my case this happened at a church social, still a surprise. Not sure if I would wear my kilt to the service itself. It would be a distraction to a number of people and saying "tough", in that context, goes against my beliefs. I'll think about that: comments?
The other thing is to weddings. I won't do that anymore. One time I think more photos were taken of me and the bride than the groom and the bride. I was the only kilt and formal. (They're divorced now.) The other time I declined and I'm glad I did. My good friend was going to wear his family's kilt for the first time and his parents didn't know. When he started down the aisle and his dad saw him, his dad started crying. I think if I had been wearing a kilt, it would have taken away the impact and that moment.
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10th July 05, 09:28 PM
#14
Lookin good! And Welcome. Like Blu said where it when you want and wear you want.
Rob
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11th July 05, 08:36 AM
#15
 Originally Posted by Archangel
The other thing is to weddings. I won't do that anymore.
Yeah, that's going to be an interesting one for me. My youngest daughter is 20, and she's already said that she wants me in a kilt to walk her down the aisle. She is still deciding whether she wants a modern wedding or a Renaissance type.
Oh, and I DID wear a sporran while in public. I didn't even realize that I had taken it off for the picture.
I certainly hope no one asks about "my pipes". The few ugly squacks I make from my practice chanter scares away small animals.
I'm still unsure about my footwear. Sure, I'm very comfortable with the sneakers and low socks look, but how to be a bit more "authentic" is still a question to me. I've heard about the moccasin without fringes, but am still undecided. Everything is strictly casual at this time. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Finally, a GREAT MANY THANKS for all the positive reinforcement for all of you here. It helps a bunch to know that there are others around the world that have voluntarily chosen to wear a kilt, be it full time or just occasionally. That in itself encourages me to step out and wear it more often - much more than just the yearly Highland Festival or Renaissance Fair - and make it part of my usual attire.
And THANK YOU to the webmaster for creating a place where those of us that wear a kilt may come together and converse, advise, and congratulate each other.
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11th July 05, 08:52 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by Archangel
Not sure if I would wear my kilt to the [church] service itself. It would be a distraction to a number of people and saying "tough", in that context, goes against my beliefs. I'll think about that: comments?
I have very poor friends whose presence in church would certainly distract other attendees. Should I discourage them from going to church? It's a shame. People, especially "church people" need to be more accepting and welcoming. They need to get over it - the world is naturally diverse and we are not born with a suit and tie. Just my comments.
Kevin
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11th July 05, 08:59 AM
#17
 Originally Posted by KMacT
I have very poor friends whose presence in church would certainly distract other attendees. Should I discourage them from going to church? It's a shame. People, especially "church people" need to be more accepting and welcoming. They need to get over it - the world is naturally diverse and we are not born with a suit and tie. Just my comments.
Kevin
At the same time, the Bible says you are not to cause your brother to fault. I know it's minor, but if it would be a large distraction (in some southern baptist churches I know, it would be ridiculous for a kilt to be seen, for example), then perhaps it's best left at home.
I'm primarily playing devil's advocate, as I don't see a kilt being that big of a deal in most churches - I mean, enough to cause your brother to fault.
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11th July 05, 09:14 AM
#18
The few times I've been dragged into a church wearing a kilt it was a nonevent. A few smiles, a couple comments about looking nice, but generally no notice taken. Seeing me in a church is more unusual than seeing a kilt anyway.
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11th July 05, 09:22 AM
#19
 Originally Posted by bubba
The few times I've been dragged into a church wearing a kilt it was a nonevent. A few smiles, a couple comments about looking nice, but generally no notice taken. Seeing me in a church is more unusual than seeing a kilt anyway.
The way you talk about yourself, folks were probably too busy watching the roof beams to pay much attention to your kilt.
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11th July 05, 10:02 AM
#20
kilts in church...
When Page & I were married, we had a traditional Scottish wedding, with a number gents in kilts (msyelf, my best man and the piper, along with several guests), and no one was "upset" about it or found it to be "improper". If anything, it added to the ceremony and the merging of two families into one.
I have worn my kilt to my church on many occasions, and everyone always loves it, both clergy and laity -- but then again, it is an Episcopalian church, so perhaps that is because most Episcopalians are Scoto/Anglo-philes who love all things from the UK & tradition? :mrgreen:
Cheers, 
Todd
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