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    A woman in drag is no more dressing like a woman than a man in drag is dressing like a man. The key is 'dressing like' not 'being'.

    I only know a couple drag kings, but they all respect men's clothes as such and find enjoyment (of whatever kind) in dressing as the other gender.

    I'm just saying- if you would be upset as a woman with drag queens wearing women's clothing, then the same problems would occur with you as a man with women wearing traditional men's clothing, however, it is crossdressing in the absolute sense.

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    As someone else pointed out, we'll not likely see a campy-looking transvestite male advertising dresses in a woman's clothing catalog. Well, maybe RuPaul could get away with it.
    No offense, but kilts are sadly still a specialty item sold to those people who don't care what others think to an extent... several designers and marketers (MAC among them, who have had RuPaul as a model) have used transgender models in their campaigns. Sadly it's to show their 'edginess' more than the practical and usual use of their product, which is what I suspect UK is doing in this case.

    (Gah- I'm the queen of quotation marks tonight... and there's no crosstyping involved...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiltedBishop
    UK'er of the month is a girl...now I am not sexist, or a chauvenist...but can't we have something of our own? please? Ladies you have many more shoe style than we,
    Historically in the west, the style of women's "power garments" have emulated men's fashion... be it kerchiefs and neck ties, pants, or even hose (which were originally the province Italian men)... Although I doubt any particular woman adopts kilts in order to emulate men, the trend of women adopting male garments in general will continue as long as the perception that men have a socially advantageous position, priviledge or power continues. Combine that with the blurring of gender roles (provider, protecter, wage earner, nurturer) that is occuring in both sexes and I imagine we'll be seeing both more men and more women in kilts... Just look at highland dancers.... Fifty years ago, tartan dresses were de rigueur. Now a kilt is REQUIRED for the ladies.

    Que sera sera?

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    I have to agree that I'm not thrilled by women wearing kilts (of any kind). I feel it makes it harder for me to explain that I am wearing mens clothing.

    Now having said that, two weeks ago, I was selling UK's at a Celtic festival. Included, for some reason, was a 14" micro mini. I spent all day trying to get women to try it on (never succeded).

    Adam

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    You know, I've nver actually seen a woman in a kilt. Then again, I've not seen, outside of our recent X Marks gathering and the Highland Games, more than two other guys in kilts on the street at all. Certainly I've never spotted a woman in a kilt.

    Did you know that the pleated wraparound skirts that girls/women wear for playing field hockey in are called "kilts"? If you search ebay for "tartan kilt" you will discover that half the listings are for kilt skirts and whatnot for women, rather than men.

    I think the battle for the term "kilt" as applying ONLY for men, is lost already. So I suppose I'd opt for making it clear that kilts are PRIMARILY for men, and consider it good.

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    I know we can't win...we can never win against the women. LOL

    Everyone made good points, and I am glad to know I am not the only one. It's not even the term so much as the notion. oh well...thanks for letting me vent...

    *steps off soap box* Next...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan H
    I think the battle for the term "kilt" as applying ONLY for men, is lost already. So I suppose I'd opt for making it clear that kilts are PRIMARILY for men, and consider it good.
    You're probably right Alan. Instead, we should just focus on kilts being acceptable everyday wear for men. Marketing wise, we would probably end up with men's kilts and women's kilts, just as we have with jeans and such.
    We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb

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    just to throw more gasoline on the fire....

    it's like a t-shirt, doesn't matter that it's not designed specifically for male/female, Pamela makes a t-shirt feminine, Arnold makes it masculine.

    Saw a guy in the whole highland regalia, feathers and all, some kind of chief, really. Looked like the wicked witch done up, sorry. Not masculine at all, Miss Marple looked more he-man.

    Women in kilts don't bother me in the slightest, although they can be a distraction. That's a different problem, and mine, not theirs.

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