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3rd February 06, 06:06 AM
#1
There's always the American Tartan:
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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3rd February 06, 06:32 AM
#2
To me, both of the tartans look good if you want to wear the colors. I think it would make a stronger, less ambiguous statement to wear a flag pin or patch than clothing with a flag design. I think that looks like a fashion statment as much as a patriotic one.
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3rd February 06, 06:30 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Pleater
That isn't a kilt
By the way it is not! That skirt reminded me of a flamenco dancer dress!
I somehow feel I ought to apologise for that - the fellow who helped finance one of the voyages of discovery - Cabot's I think - was called Americ - and he was armorigeous - his tomb is, I think, somewhere down in the West Country - of England, and you can visit it and see the stars and stripes on his shield.
Let's be serious, please. I've been taught that America is called this way because the maps used by Christopher Columbus were made by Americo Vespuccio, a italian geographer. Now a days, we know that before him there were already maps done by the chinese with the shape of America, and maybe Americo just copied those maps, but his name still lasts thanks to his friend Chris.
Pardon, I'm gone off topic.
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3rd February 06, 06:38 AM
#4
If there was a way to make a "tasteful" Stars and Stripes Kilt, I would think about it.
The local WalMart has red & white flag stripe twill, and the Blue star field twill.
By pleating it to the stripe (red) It would be a red kilt, and I would use the blue for the aprons. The white stripes would "flash".
But I think the whole thing would be WAY TOO BOLD!
Might be fun to try though!
Mark Dockendorf
Left on the Right Coast
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3rd February 06, 06:44 AM
#5
"American" kilt...
I have to echo Matt and planopiper's sentiments about the US/St. Andrew's and American tartan; both are very striking, especially the former, which I have actually seen before as a kilt.
The maxim "just because you "can" do something, doesn't mean you shouldn't" applies here, IMHO. Yes, the flag code doesn't prohibit "flag-like" garments, only garments and other items made from the American flag, but for me, it's a matter of respect.
Cheers, 
Todd
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4th February 06, 09:07 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by mddock58
If there was a way to make a "tasteful" Stars and Stripes Kilt, I would think about it.
The local WalMart has red & white flag stripe twill, and the Blue star field twill.
By pleating it to the stripe (red) It would be a red kilt, and I would use the blue for the aprons. The white stripes would "flash".
But I think the whole thing would be WAY TOO BOLD!
Might be fun to try though!
This is a very cool Idea. If I do this it would be something like this. Think "uncle Angus" This is the kind of kilt you wear on the 4Th with a top hat and a beard!! You guys get it ? Some of you did. By the kilted Gods you guys wanna avoid that poor unfortunate kilt in that picture. I mean that's just sad.
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3rd February 06, 03:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by Kilteado
By the way it is not! That skirt reminded me of a flamenco dancer dress!
Let's be serious, please. I've been taught that America is called this way because the maps used by Christopher Columbus were made by Americo Vespuccio, a italian geographer. Now a days, we know that before him there were already maps done by the chinese with the shape of America, and maybe Americo just copied those maps, but his name still lasts thanks to his friend Chris.
Pardon, I'm gone off topic.
I know what Chinese map you're referring to. However, that was supposidly a 1700s copy of a much early map, so I don't put much stock in it.
That American flag kilt is ugly. Good intention, bad result.
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3rd February 06, 07:14 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Pleater
color=black]This is what one American 'kiltmaker' did to the Stars and Stripes last year. I e-mailed them at the time just to say how poor I thought his 'skirts' were and that the 'Patriot Kilt' was really quite insulting to his country...[/color]
That isn't a kilt - the pleats appear to be folded backwards to normal and all the same size.
It might be constructed something like a woman's pleated skirt - but it looks awful.
I've done better pleating on curtains.
Pleater - Elijah is a member here, I don't think the slam was necessary.
It's always possible the picture was flipped ( happens frequently) and we should be helpful with our comments.
My comments on a "flag" kilt - first I was speaking about fabric I had seen, I would NEVER try to make a kilt "look" like a flag.
Respect for the flag, and country is first and foremost. I love both of the tartans, but I like to think of ways to make contemporary kilts from interesting fabrics, respecting both traditional kilts, and clothing in general.
The kilts other makers produce, are ideas that they tried, and what they produce is fine, but it may not suit my taste or yours, there is no need to be mean about it.
Mark Dockendorf
Left on the Right Coast
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3rd February 06, 07:37 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by mddock58
It's always possible the picture was flipped ( happens frequently) and we should be helpful with our comments.
Forgive my ignorance...but what does the term 'flipped' mean ?
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3rd February 06, 07:42 AM
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Digitally pictures can be "flipped", what should properly be the left side, becomes the right side. If you look at magazines, papers etc. and see the writing or logos looking like a mirror reflection, that's what usually has happened.
Mark Dockendorf
Left on the Right Coast
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