Xmarks cross section....

[Blu (Ontario)]

..... I think that the poll is a little narrow.....

Nahhh, you got right idea... but the purpose wasn't to micro-analyze all the various permutations, but only to indicate generaly basic demographics. I think keeping it simple was the best approach.

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[Bill]

Hi All!

I wasn't sure where to place myself. I do own two casual canvas kilts from 13th Colony kilts but I wear them far less often than the traditional tartans I own and then only about the house and yard. As my experiance with kilts has grown I find myself gravitating more firmly to the traditional side. I like the way tartan looks over the plainess of the casual solid color kilts. That being said I have absolutely no problem with a casual non-traditional kilt. It's like me and tea, I like it but I like coffee better.

So I put myself down as a soft traditionalist. BTW interesting poll.

Slainte' !

Bill

[MacWage]

It's like me and tea, I like it but I like coffee better.

I disagree . . .

I LOVE tea (esp. sweet ice tea), but HATE coffee!!!

BUT, that is a whole other topic . . .



As for kilts, solid belted plaids (particularly in red) and kilts (particularly in tweed) are well documented as quite old, BUT in a traditional cut.

To me the difference is the cut, meaning the waist, the taper, and the width of the aprons. BOTH can be either tartan or solid.

Traditional:
high waist (belly button area)
wide apron
tapered for close fit

Modern:
pants waist
"narrow" apron
little to no taper (not much needed for the close proximity of rump to waist)-> often this taper is an two or four big darts, as opposed EVERY pleat on a traditional kilt.

As for the pleat style, either can be knife/side pleated (like most traditionals AND moderns) or box pleated (as in Matt and my traditionals and the modern X Kilt).

The above is an attempt at definition clarafication (esp. for the more newbie among us).

My preference is STILL for traditionals in tartan wool, but I have developed respect for other modern ones and may someday (in the distant future . . . maybe . . .) get one (or make one in a tartan).

[Martin S]

Trouble with simple-question polls is that the simple answer pay not reflect the underlying truth.

My answer : I'm a Happy Dualist (sounds as if I don't care, one way or t'other)

Facts : I prefer tartan by far, but also wear home-made plain cotton garments, when even 5 yards of wool is too warm.
I prefer good worsted wool by far, but it's expensive.
I like the swing of the pleats, but don't really need all that cloth.
I have no wish whatsoever to acquire a wide-flaired (=shapeless) utilikilt with attachments and pockets all over.

Martin

[davedove]

Although I'm a duelist in that I do wear both traditional and modern kilts, I much prefer wearing the tartan.

[Colin]

I selected Happy Dualist because I still wear my Bear kilts, but I would think of myself more as a Soft Traditionalist.

[Martin S]

I wonder if the proportion of kilters accepting/wearing modern mugs would be so high if the poll were carried out east of the Atlantic.
I'm fairly sure there would be a far higher percentage of traditionalists, especially as most of the the non-trads come from the western edge of the world, whereas the trads are built in Europe (or even fursther east).
(I'd put 21st century kilts in the trad category, considering the design)

How many Brits (leaving Hamish aside) have bought and worn utili- etc- kilts?

Martin

[McClef]

How many Brits (leaving Hamish aside) have bought and worn utili- etc- kilts?

Martin

So far I only have the Unionkilts brown leather one which has side and rear pockets.

I certainly want a camo kilt which I expect I will get shortly. I did try one on and liked it and was going to buy it but having tried on the leather one opted for that instead!

[Monkey@Arms]

I wonder if the proportion of kilters accepting/wearing modern mugs would be so high if the poll were carried out east of the Atlantic.

Just want to point out that the poll is being carried out on the World Wide Web, not in North America, as your valuable contribution demonstrates. While participation in this forum may be skewed toward the US and Canada, we obviously have some very active participants from the Scotland, England and Wales, and points east. You're probably right that you'll find more traditionalists in the Auld Country, but as been hashed around many times, its beginning to look like you'll find more actual kilt wearers, (and kilts being worn) in the New World.

Best regards,

Jake

[Kilted Stuart]

Down the middle for me. I love a good wool or PV 8 yd tartan like the rest of them but also see a time and need to throw on a Camo or solid when the right situation arises.
I do insist though that they be custom and good quality. I don't see the need for an ill fitting off the rack cheapy. I prefer they fit me weather they are a casual cut or full trad. style.

Kilted Stuart