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16th June 07, 07:48 PM
#1
The Clark Tartan was 'taken' from the Clergy Tartan (also called "Priest") ;
'Clark' 'Clerk' comes from "Cleric" (Clergy).
The Clark clan 'comandeered' the Tartan which was brightly colored, the Protestant Calvinist/ Presbyterians felt the Clergy should have less frivolity so they began to mute the colors for Clergy, while the Clarks kept the brighter tartan.
"Clergy" is used by mpst Denominations, but some Catholics sometimes tend to maintain the original (older) brighter version - and are often confused with the Clark family, or the Clerks get mistaken for Clergy in Catholic Circles.
The Highlanders remained Catholic, while the Lowladers embraced John Knox's Presbyterianism, but both clergy used the same tartan nevertheless.
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16th June 07, 07:58 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Ozman1944
The Clark Tartan was 'taken' from the Clergy Tartan (also called "Priest") ;
'Clark' 'Clerk' comes from "Cleric" (Clergy).
The Clark clan 'comandeered' the Tartan which was brightly colored, the Protestant Calvinist/ Presbyterians felt the Clergy should have less frivolity so they began to mute the colors for Clergy, while the Clarks kept the brighter tartan.
"Clergy" is used by mpst Denominations, but some Catholics sometimes tend to maintain the original (older) brighter version - and are often confused with the Clark family, or the Clerks get mistaken for Clergy in Catholic Circles.
The Highlanders remained Catholic, while the Lowladers embraced John Knox's Presbyterianism, but both clergy used the same tartan nevertheless.
Well...not exactly. There are a lot of myths associated with this tartan.
Lowland Presbyterians generally didn't embrace anything associated with the Highlanders, who were largely Roman Catholic or Episcopalian.
If you read Matt's article above, you'll find that the clergy tartan dates to the 1830's at the earliest. It's worth the read.
Regards,
Todd
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16th June 07, 08:08 PM
#3
Wow! thanks a bunch!
Great info!
~Casey
[SIZE="1"]"It's the job thats never started that takes the longest to finish. Thats what my old Gaffer used to say." - Samwise Gamgie, J.R.R. Tolkein[/SIZE]
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16th June 07, 08:24 PM
#4
13 oz tartan in "Artificial Wool" 9.75 a yard. we just ordered 25 yards of Clergy/Clark
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16th June 07, 10:19 PM
#5
Another slant would be if your local church is named after someone/thing with a tartan.
Like the local Episcopal church here is named St. David's. But I've been unsuccessful so far in getting the padre to adopt the St. David's tartan - even for a necktie or scarf...maybe one day.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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16th June 07, 10:23 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Another slant would be if your local church is named after someone/thing with a tartan.
Like the local Episcopal church here is named St. David's. But I've been unsuccessful so far in getting the padre to adopt the St. David's tartan - even for a necktie or scarf...maybe one day.
Ron
unfortunately, its name is Crestview Presbyterian Church. (www.crestpres.org)
I will talk with my youth pastor and see what I can work out.
~Casey
[SIZE="1"]"It's the job thats never started that takes the longest to finish. Thats what my old Gaffer used to say." - Samwise Gamgie, J.R.R. Tolkein[/SIZE]
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16th June 07, 10:43 PM
#7
Boy, that is a tough one.
Have you considered the Ohio state tartan which has the same red, white, and blue that your church uses? Would give it a double meaning.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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17th June 07, 03:42 PM
#8
'Blackwatch Presbyterian" is a great idea, plus "Royal Stewart Fellowship Hall" . You'd never have a problem finding Tartans.
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17th June 07, 06:41 PM
#9
This Presbyterian is not aware of any specfic Presbyterian tartans. The Clergy tartan is worn by the clergy of all denominations.
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17th June 07, 06:48 PM
#10
Other appropriate tartans for a Presbyterian Church:
St. Columba
Holyrood
St. Andrew's
Douglas -- in honour of the Cameronian Regiment, originally raised from Covenanting Presbyterians
Hamilton -- in honour of Scottish Protestant martyr Patrick Hamilton
Ulster -- in honour of the Ulster-Scots, many of whom were Presbyterians
Yours aye,
Todd*
*who was born & raised Presbyterian, from a long line of Presbyterians, but who is now an Episcopalian.
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