XMTS Motto

**Rampant Lion** · 21st August 07, 02:13 PM

The "By Choice", but the "Not Blood" seems almost negative. And really "By Choice" says it all. Now if you want some a little longer... perhaps something like "Fellowship By Choice". Something that really shows XMTS's open-mindedness and friendly nature.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

**McClef** · 21st August 07, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by sporranlegionaire

I'm not sure. 'Choice' to me sounds like a flimsy commitment. Can't think of alternatives at the moment, but 'Allegiance' is in my head. 'Through Allegiance, Not Blood.'

I don't see how allegiance can enter into it, we are in X Marks my choice and there is no Chief to swear allegiance to. We are regularly asked to give allegiance to the rules but that is to the rules of the site.

The camaraderie we have with each other in the site that has brought us together and formed friendships provides a form of personal allegiance which goes beyond any feeling of mere duty.

**irishrob** · 21st August 07, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by McClef

I don't see how allegiance can enter into it, we are in X Marks my choice and there is no Chief to swear allegiance to. We are regularly asked to give allegiance to the rules but that is to the rules of the site.

The camaraderie we have with each other in the site that has brought us together and formed friendships provides a form of personal allegiance which goes beyond any feeling of mere duty.

What he said!

Rob

**sean_cummings** · 21st August 07, 03:03 PM

You knew this would be a spirited debate.

I vote for “by choice or by blood”

**Panache** · 21st August 07, 03:07 PM

I personally liked the Flame-Haired Celtic Amazon Goddess' suggestion of "In Kilts Fellowship". But then again I am very very biased...

Cheers

Jamie

**Balaamsass51** · 21st August 07, 03:08 PM

I'm with Cavscout and Brucek. As is it eliminates those who do have a blood connection with things Scottish. I vote no.

Matt

**BruceK** · 21st August 07, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Panache

I personally liked the Flame-Haired Celtic Amazon Goddess' suggestion of "In Kilts Fellowship". But then again I am very very biased...

How about "In Kilted Fellowship"?

And I can understand and appreciate your bias...

**McClef** · 21st August 07, 03:18 PM

I fail to see this logic about excluding people with Scottish blood at all, choice is inclusive, not exclusive.

**sporranlegionaire** · 21st August 07, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by McClef

I don't see how allegiance can enter into it, we are in X Marks my choice and there is no Chief to swear allegiance to. We are regularly asked to give allegiance to the rules but that is to the rules of the site.

The camaraderie we have with each other in the site that has brought us together and formed friendships provides a form of personal allegiance which goes beyond any feeling of mere duty.

I agree. 'Personal allegiance' is exactly what I meant. But it's difficult to spell it out in a four worded motto.

**Colin** · 21st August 07, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Balaamsass51

I'm with Cavscout and Brucek. As is it eliminates those who do have a blood connection with things Scottish. I vote no.

Matt

The basis of "By Choice, not Blood" was not in regards to those of us with Celtic heritage, it was in regards to the fact that we are all part of the Xmarks "Clan" by choice and not by blood relation to each other. I don't see how it takes away from my heritage.

Now, if it was in reference to the choicing of wearing a kilt, than yes I can see that point. We all choose to wear a kilt, but some of us do to honour our family heritage where as other do it because they look freakin' cool.