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    Quote Originally Posted by fluter View Post
    Almost forgot my most pressing question: with a 9-10 inch over apron, what is optimum size of the under-apron??? I'm about the size of the hypothetical guy in Appendix 1 diagram, but was not very sure what was included in the 16 inch allocation for the under apron. I extended a bit with a deep (6") apron pleat, then made the apron 10 inches wide. I'll wear it a while and see what happens.
    I'd suggest that you make the under apron at least long enough to extend past your left thigh while standing. If you make it much shorter, you'll find that when you sit down the aprons will part ways in the middle and create an opportunity for major exposure.
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    Fluter,

    It looks great! You have made the perfect first X-kilt: good enough to wear with pride but with enough little "imperfections" to learn from and to make you restless to make the next X-kilt. Bravo!

    Moosedog

    On edit: ditto what tartan Hiker said. Also I often find that when playing with the width of the overapron I end up needing to secure it not only at the waist per Alan's manual but again 4-5 inches further down. I know, it's like the dreaded "unnecessary second hip buckle" on a traditional kilt. But whereas with a wide apron (approaching 1/2-way around you) the second buckle is superfluous, on narrower-aproned kilts I find they often don't hang and move right unless I secure it, either with a second bit of velcro (practical) or a strap and buckle (looks sharp.) This is aggravated is someone with muscular thighs. That's why kilts with really narrow aprons (UK or AK) have additional securing points via snaps.

    It looks as if you built enough taper in to minimize this on your first one, just a heads up for the next.
    Last edited by Moosedog; 12th October 07 at 11:04 AM. Reason: adding advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosedog View Post
    Fluter,

    It looks great! You have made the perfect first X-kilt: good enough to wear with pride but with enough little "imperfections" to learn from and to make you restless to make the next X-kilt. Bravo!

    Moosedog

    On edit: ditto what tartan Hiker said. Also I often find that when playing with the width of the overapron I end up needing to secure it not only at the waist per Alan's manual but again 4-5 inches further down. I know, it's like the dreaded "unnecessary second hip buckle" on a traditional kilt. But whereas with a wide apron (approaching 1/2-way around you) the second buckle is superfluous, on narrower-aproned kilts I find they often don't hang and move right unless I secure it, either with a second bit of velcro (practical) or a strap and buckle (looks sharp.) This is aggravated is someone with muscular thighs. That's why kilts with really narrow aprons (UK or AK) have additional securing points via snaps.

    It looks as if you built enough taper in to minimize this on your first one, just a heads up for the next.
    I've taken to stitching down the left hand edge of my over-aprons on my X-Kilts to the fell line, for exactly these reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan H View Post
    I've taken to stitching down the left hand edge of my over-aprons on my X-Kilts to the fell line, for exactly these reasons.
    Yup, I did that, too. I was considering adding a velcro patch at the right, as Moosedog suggests.


    Thanks to all for the ideas and encouragement!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluter View Post
    There are some faults, but this is why we learn with inexpensive cotton! I understand my brethren's references to kilts for yard work! but as a first project, I feel good about it.
    As you should-this looks great!

    Quote Originally Posted by fluter View Post
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    I have pretty good sized under-apron pleats on both sides (5 and 6 inches). Perhaps a bit more would be better.
    About half the size of the over apron on the left seems to be good, but deeper is fine-never hurts to have more coverage!

    Quote Originally Posted by fluter View Post
    Almost forgot my most pressing question: with a 9-10 inch over apron, what is optimum size of the under-apron??? I'm about the size of the hypothetical guy in Appendix 1 diagram, but was not very sure what was included in the 16 inch allocation for the under apron. I extended a bit with a deep (6") apron pleat, then made the apron 10 inches wide. I'll wear it a while and see what happens.
    I find that the underapron should be about half again as wide as the overapron if you want to avoid embarrassment!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan H View Post
    I've taken to stitching down the left hand edge of my over-aprons on my X-Kilts to the fell line, for exactly these reasons.
    As a woman, I find that if one sews down the entire fell line it is too tight at the hip, but for a man, I imagine this works out fine.

    Be well,

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    Nice kilt!

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    That looks good
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