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13th April 08, 09:56 AM
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The imprisonment of an unfaithful wife was thought to be exceedingly proper - in a society where there is a patrelinear (HA!! That's foxed the spell checker) inheritance and no DNA testing it is highly problematic.
Victoria's Prince Consort, Albert, was reputedly not the son of his mother's husband, as he did not have hemophilia like his brother Ernest. He was, however a perfectly acceptable social match as he had not been disinherited - being the second son and healthy it was perhaps a sensible decision.
The Saxe-Coburg connection was, I think, on Victoria's mother's side, with the inheritance of sex linked conditions understood, the threat of the illness having come to Victoria was realised, so the legitimate son, His Serene Highness Ernest of Saxe-Coburg Gotha, who was known to be a hemophiliac, would have been a disastrous match as it would have condemned most of the royal children to inherit the full form of the condition.
Even with the marriage to Albert, Victoria's daughters spread the condition to other royal houses - perhaps most notably to the Russian Czar's son.
Victoria - being female, did not inherit the crown of Hanover from her uncle William, it went to another of her uncles, I think he was also called Ernest.
It is sometimes rather amusing to think of the different possibilites in British history, if there had been children, or if a boy had been born rather than a girl, or if someone had lived to inherit.
I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
-- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.
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13th April 08, 11:27 AM
#12
Most informative, Trefor. Thank you.
History was never 'my thing' but I now feel enlightened as Culloden, and that era, has always confused me.
By the way, I am reliably informed that my name is engraved on a flagstone in the path leading to the new Culloden Visitor Centre. Apparently, it reads simply: "Hamish - The kilted legend" !!! I must get there one day to see if I can find it.
Take care,
Ham.
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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13th April 08, 01:08 PM
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Interestingly my own family The Camerons) fought with the Stewart, in the British ranks was General Woolfe , who was general of the 20th regiment of the foot (later the Lancashire Fusiliers.) whilst studying a branch of my familys history, a distant great great uncle called George Clarkson served in the great war with the Lancashire fusiliers, so I family connections with Woolfes old regiment on both sides
At Culloden Woolfe refused to carry out an order of the Duke of Cumberland to shoot a wounded Highlander by stating that his honour was worth more than his commission. This act may have been a cause for his later popularity among the Royal Highland Fusiliers, whom he would later command.
heres George Clarkson
![](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/kryptonion2003/george1.jpg)
he survived the great war but tragically took his own life after the death of his grandchild and wife.
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21st April 08, 03:13 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by McClef
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So any member of the Royal Family who marries a Catholic still looses their place in the Line of Succession - this happened to Prince Michael of Kent for example ....
As will Princess Anne's son, who, though not strictly speaking a member of the Royal Family, will no longer be in the line of succession when he marries his Catholic fiancee.
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21st April 08, 03:32 PM
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Unfortunately, I have no clue if my ancestors fought in this war, probably not though, Morrisons are always left out...
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21st April 08, 03:40 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by gilmore
As will Princess Anne's son, who, though not strictly speaking a member of the Royal Family, will no longer be in the line of succession when he marries his Catholic fiancee.
Yes he will but as Anne comes after all her brothers and their children in the succession that makes him currently #11 which is not exactly much chance in the first place.
Under a non male preference primogeniture system he would have been third in line. Under the Royal Marriages Act he would theoretically have needed the Monarch's permission if he was under the age of 25 which he isn't ![Laughing](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
We do have some amazing antiquated laws.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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21st April 08, 03:51 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by McClef
Under the Royal Marriages Act he would theoretically have needed the Monarch's permission if he was under the age of 25 which he isn't ![Laughing](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif) ...
I think I recall reading that he did ask, and that permission was granted by the Queen in Privy Council.
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21st April 08, 04:08 PM
#18
There is a neat news story on Scotland on TV about the opening of the center and it shows the two young lads that won the contest. They were kilted at the opening!
http://www.scotlandontv.tv/scotland_...&vxBitrate=300
Sara
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~Christopher Morley
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