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11th February 08, 10:57 PM
#1
Ok Guys I Don't Know About The Spelling. Mine Stinks! However I Do Find The This Style Of Pleating Very Interesting.
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12th February 08, 02:34 AM
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There is one thing which you really need to consider if you make a Kingussie kilt, the back will fly up even more easily than an ordinary knife pleated kilt, so you might consider putting a strip of the small weights used in net curtains, or a few coins perhaps, into that back pleat. Another option would be a strip of elastic a few inches from the lower edge to hold the inside edges of the pleats together.
It would be just the right costume for a swashbuckling Scottish Puss in Boots as it would accommodate a tail really well - but for those without tails I'd recommend a heavy weight worsted wool or perhaps a thick corduroy or canvas material plus other safety options or that back pleat will be tapping you on your shoulder to get your attention.
The spelling 'Kinguisse' is on one of the websites, I thought at first it might have been me - I can reverse letters in almost anything, and its even worse with numbers.
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12th February 08, 10:55 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Pleater
There is one thing which you really need to consider if you make a Kingussie kilt, the back will fly up even more easily than an ordinary knife pleated kilt...
Now that's interesting. I've been sitting here for the past 5 minutes making sketches and calculating wind vectors, and I just can't figure why this is true. Must be due to the reduced friction between the pleats in the very center. Once they achieve "lift-off" there's more sail surface to keep the whole thing moving upward. Hmmm... 
Pleater...do you see this effect when walking directly into the wind, or is it apparent at other wind angles as well?
I've got 5 yards of 16 oz. cloth waiting for my attentions, and was toying with the idea of kinguisse pleating. Now that the "fly-up challenge" has been issued my mind is made up. I've got to see this for myself, and if I find it too annoying I can always tear it apart and rebuild it.
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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12th February 08, 05:38 PM
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A Left Hand Drive Kilt
 Originally Posted by Tartan Hiker
Now that's interesting. I've been sitting here for the past 5 minutes making sketches and calculating wind vectors, and I just can't figure why this is true. Must be due to the reduced friction between the pleats in the very center. Once they achieve "lift-off" there's more sail surface to keep the whole thing moving upward. Hmmm...
Pleater...do you see this effect when walking directly into the wind, or is it apparent at other wind angles as well?
Years ago I asked someone (it may have been Mr. Lowe at Stewart Christie) about having a Kingussie kilt run up, but he advised against it saying that too many gentlemen complained about the pleats lifting in the wind.
He then showed me a kilt destined for a customer in North America who had requested that the knife pleats be reversed, making it easier to slide behind the wheel of his Rolls-Royce. I was quite impressed-- I'd never seen a left hand drive kilt before.
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12th February 08, 06:16 PM
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 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
He then showed me a kilt destined for a customer in North America who had requested that the knife pleats be reversed, making it easier to slide behind the wheel of his Rolls-Royce. I was quite impressed-- I'd never seen a left hand drive kilt before.
Here's another one!

I made this one with reversed pleats for just that reason, but honestly I don't see much difference in the way it "sits" in my truck. (and learning how to sweep with my left hand has been somewhat annoying).
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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14th February 08, 05:09 AM
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Very informative thread. Thanks to all contributors.
Andy in Ithaca, NY
Exile from Northumberland
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14th February 08, 05:28 AM
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I have made a couple of kilts in the reverse style with rear facing pleats and a large box pleat in the center, inside, so from the back it is all knife pleats that meet in the center. With heavy weight fabric, this is very stable in the wind, and does not snag up on things when out walking in the wood. Maybe not correctly stylish, but wide pleats, and minimal fabric worked out well for me in this style for wear about the shop (blacksmith) to work in.
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14th February 08, 09:50 AM
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Yes, thanks to Pleater et al. for a very informative thread. Looks like a GK (brand new XMTS acronym!!! ) will be my next project!
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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14th February 08, 10:19 AM
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Ghillie Kingussie seems an appropriate name - as it is just the thing for the rough outdoors, breaking a path for the sportsman or moving in on poachers like a ghillie dhu (a forest spirit)
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14th February 08, 10:32 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by Pleater
Ghillie Kingussie seems an appropriate name - as it is just the thing for the rough outdoors, breaking a path for the sportsman or moving in on poachers like a ghillie dhu (a forest spirit)
Oh, okay.... you just threw me with the name 'Ghillie' Kingussie
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