Argyll outfit 'infamous'?

[Kilted Craanen]

Hah ^_^ Thank you McMurdo. I knew that one already.. The man is a friend of mine you see.. (He's also the one taking care of my made-to-measure argyll jacket)

Now I have a kilt with the Gordon tartan, which is fairly international as far as I know. Would that be fine?

Daniel

[beloitpiper]

The Gordon tartan is beautiful. Treat it wih respect and wear it proudly!!!

[Cavebear58]

He told me he would find it ashaming to be together with someone in an argyll outfit who was not scottish and that it was not a kilt on a non-scotsman, but a skirt.

Well that's saved you thinking what to buy him for his birthday then, hasn't it?

Enjoy, and OF COURSE you can still wear one of the trendiest, smartest, most comfortable, male outfits!

Cheers, Graham.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

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[macwilkin]

Hah ^_^ Thank you McMurdo. I knew that one already.. The man is a friend of mine you see.. (He's also the one taking care of my made-to-measure argyll jacket)

Now I have a kilt with the Gordon tartan, which is fairly international as far as I know. Would that be fine?

Daniel

You can always wear it in honour of the Gordon Highlanders, part of the allied forces that stood with the Dutch against the Nazis during WWII.

Regards,

Todd

[Jock Scot]

Your dad apologized-----enough said.

[Nervous Jock]

I don't think your dad presented his request very well, but as there his tickets I'd respect his wishes. He's said sorry so I'd move on on this one but look for an opportunity to chat to him to explain why you wanted to wear your rig and how you felt about his response

[Mac Ghille Sheathanaich]

Ninety nine percent of the people you run into in this life are never going to accept nor understand why any of the rest us want to be kilted.

Of that percentage, probably at least seventy five percent are Scots or of Scots ancestry.

Demographically, southwest Idaho has a huge percentage of Scots ancestry types. When I was president of our local county Society, I thought there would be a lot more support from these people, but I was wrong.

The common mentality is too far removed from the old country and most people have forgotten where they came from, if they ever knew.....

You just do what you have to do, and not be overly concerned about what other people think.

One has to pause and wonder if the "parade-rainers" and "nay-sayers" are jealous and/or envious because they aren't secure enough in their masculinity to go kilted.

We live in a world, where the men still "wear the pants", and nothing is going to change that.

Sadly, most of us of white European ancestry have been conditioned to be ashamed of who we are, by certain other cultural elements of Society.

These other "elements" can have all their celebrations and parades, and special holidays, and the rest of us are supposed to embrace all of it and count ourselves blessed that we live in a nation that is all embracing,

except for ourselves that is.......

If we want to have any kind of celebration of our roots, culture and heritage, we get branded as being "racist" or "White Supremacist"

I need to quit this line of thinking now before I get into trouble.

It makes me so damned mad, there's only one cure for it. I'll just have to go strap on my kilt, swallow two fingers of single-malt, blow up my pipes and
have a piping walk through my "other cultural element" neighborhood.

Except it's below freezing here this morning.

Fide et Fortitudine, aye!

T.

[Kid Cossack]

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That does not make them scottish, they are not scots their ancestors were

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You are american, scottishness is not who you are.

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You come fromnorth america, you dont come from scotland

Alumini:

Nothing like jumping in with both feet, amigo! And for a first post, at that. During my (unkilted) wanderings in the former Soviet Union, I had to wrap myself around new concepts, like the formal distinction between nationality and citizenship. My wife, for instance, her passport showed nationality as Russian, and her citizenship as Kazakhstani. (We've fixed that last part!)

Who was she?

In the multiple Venn diagrams that define us, which circle is most important? If you're a left-handed Catholic from Muskogee, Oklahoma, born in 1962, of Polish extraction, who served in the US Navy . . . what defines you?

Or as the rapper once said, "It's not where you're from, it's where you're at."

I am not a Scot. I am of Scots extraction.
I am not Irish. But I do have Irish blood. (Some.)
I am not English. But I do have English blood. (Some.)
I am not a lot of things . . . but I have blood from many countries.

How diluted does one's blood have to be before one is cut off from the cultural affinities one feels for one's ancestors?

Is there a point where my English blood is so dilute that I cannot thrill to Shakespeare? For who would such fardels bear . . . .

And, to be more relevant to the original poster's original post, is there not a point at which cultural affinities are sufficient, in and of themselves, to allow adoption of certain cultural artifacts?

I am not a Scot, and I am not Scottish. I am an American, from America, descended from (among others) Scotsmen, and Scotswomen. I wear a kilt, and frequently. I know, and understand, that there are Scots who think that by so doing I am transgressing on "their turf." I know, also, that there have been Scots who have been tickled pink to see me in my kilt, with whom I have engaged in discussions of the kilt and its history.

I hope this does not seem combative; I am attempting to engage you regarding your post . . . and also let me say, welcome aboard, and I hope you find our little website to be interesting and entertaining.

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Sadly, most of us of white European ancestry have been conditioned to be ashamed of who we are, by certain other cultural elements of Society.

These other "elements" can have all their celebrations and parades, and special holidays, and the rest of us are supposed to embrace all of it and count ourselves blessed that we live in a nation that is all embracing,

except for ourselves that is.......

If we want to have any kind of celebration of our roots, culture and heritage, we get branded as being "racist" or "White Supremacist"

**looks around, let's see, Highland Games in 2 weeks, Ren Fest w/ Scotland Week the month after that, St Patricks Day the month after that**

Pardon?