Clan badge variations

**Jock Scot** · 9th April 09, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by BEEDEE

OK guys, this was meant as a very tongue in cheek response to the Wizard of BC's suggestion! I did not think anyone would take it seriously.

Brian

No worries sir.The trouble is that there is acres,volumes,bucket fulls of claptrap just like the sort of stuff you came up with in fun and Ok, I did not get the joke! Sorry! The trouble is, that we in Scotland, have had centuries of propaganda,misinformation,half truths, lies and fanciful information dished out by all and sundry that I can well understand people believing what you had said! It would not surprise me one bit.I await to have some unwitting soul giving me this information, er long, whilst I stroll around Scotland. I give it a year.

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 9th April 09, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

This is as I understand it too. I seem to recal that, 30 or 40 years ago(could be more) there was quite a debate going on about this, by those that understand these things and the end result has been that with clan badges the tip should go over the strap.

The reasoning behind this decisions was that Knights of the Garter are allowed to encircle their arms, crest, or badge with the insignia of the Most Noble Order of the Garter -- a buckle and strap similar to that of a clan badge -- and heraldry being what it is, the decision was taken to difference the two by changing the position of the end of the strap on clan badges.

**Riverkilt** · 9th April 09, 06:59 AM

So....its not a gay or straight thing? Can't recall which was which....

Ron

**Chas** · 9th April 09, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

So....its not a gay or straight thing? Can't recall which was which....

Ron

Thanks for sorting that out for us Ron - just shows how easy it is to make mistakes!

Regards

Chas

**kiltedsawyer** · 10th April 09, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

So....its not a gay or straight thing? Can't recall which was which....

Ron

No, if it's over you dress to the left, under to the right.
BUT YOU'RE WEARING A KILT!

**Fedgunner** · 10th April 09, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

Those drawn by Romilly Squire of Rubislaw are heraldically correct. The proper form is for the tip of the strap of clan badges go over the strap, whilst the insignia of the Most Noble Order of the Garter has it tucked under the strap.

What he said!