on the plane

**Spartan** · 12th June 09, 06:48 AM

Like others, the sporran has not been counted as a carry on piece. After all, it's our pocket.

I do have a question. Has anyone actually had a problem taking a kilt pin through security? On three occasions in the last few weeks I have taken a kilt pin through security without an issue. What do women do with pin-on jewelry?

**ForresterModern** · 12th June 09, 07:44 AM

No big metal belt buckle unless you want to have to take it off, put it through the machine, then put it back on, like you do with your shoes.

**csbdr** · 12th June 09, 12:42 PM

I found that the biggest hassle was getting wanded. Why? Because it didn't stop at wanding. I was lunging with both legs, seated lifting feet, standing spead eagle for a pat down....they patted down everything, right down to fondling the buckles. I felt like they owed me dinner for the feel they copped! Biggest issue was it upset my son, seeing his dad treated like a criminal by the "police". He"s 6 1/2 and was crying through the glass partition. They wouldn't have treated a woman in a skirt to that, and shouldn't have me. If I was wearing a pair of cargo shorts, I would have gone straight through, even if a snap or 2 did set off the alarm.

It sounds like I'm in the minority, but I'll never fly kilted again. Not worth the humiliation....

**Spartan** · 12th June 09, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by csbdr

I found that the biggest hassle was getting wanded. Why? Because it didn't stop at wanding. I was lunging with both legs, seated lifting feet, standing spead eagle for a pat down....they patted down everything, right down to fondling the buckles. I felt like they owed me dinner for the feel they copped! Biggest issue was it upset my son, seeing his dad treated like a criminal by the "police". He"s 6 1/2 and was crying through the glass partition. They wouldn't have treated a woman in a skirt to that, and shouldn't have me. If I was wearing a pair of cargo shorts, I would have gone straight through, even if a snap or 2 did set off the alarm.

It sounds like I'm in the minority, but I'll never fly kilted again. Not worth the humiliation....

Sorry that your experience was negative. That's too bad.

**gseven1** · 12th June 09, 01:11 PM

Sorry to hear you had a problem csbdr. I've flown kilted several times and never had a problem. In fact, I've found it to be more trouble free. I usually wear a UK or some type of modern kilt, which made me nervous the first time for the snaps setting off the metal detector, but they didn't. The only times I have ever received the full pat down treatment was when I was wearing cargo shorts. It is humiliating.

I don't know that I would say the cargo shorts would have gone through unnoticed. Like I said, every time I have worn shorts I've been patted down. They now have that clear fly (name?) that you can do that will get you through security in a breeze, but if you don't fly often, it probably isn't worth it, plus it isn't at all airports.

For my two cents, fly kilted!

**ForresterModern** · 12th June 09, 01:43 PM

Might try walking through the metal detector sideways to keep the buckles as far away from the sides of the metal detector as possible. Distance is one reason that a lot of people can walk through with their belts still on, even though their belt buckles are as much metal as the straps on your kilt. Another option would be to twist your kilt 90 degrees to one side or the other to put the pleats at your side and then the buckles would be fore and aft, and you could walk straight through the detector without seeming to be trying to hide something.

I am wide enough that when I walk through I have to half croutch and bring my elbows and hands straight in front of me in order not to brush the sides of the detector with my shoulders or elbows or the top with my head or hair (contact will set it off) as well as to bring my watch and wedding ring away from the detector sides. Looks a wee bit strange but it gets me through without setting off the alarms.

**Carolina Kiltman** · 12th June 09, 06:39 PM

If you do need to pack the kilt, carefully lay it out, full length on a table (or floor) the roll it up, keeping the pleats lined up. (not as difficult as it sounds),

Then beg, buy, borrow, or steal, a half hose form your wife/girl/firend/SO, and roll it over the kilt. It will then pack very easily, and then when unpacking, the kilt will have no wrinkles.

Of course if you wear it, you will have an extra 4 to 5 lbs to pack into suite case.

**dowofbuchanan** · 12th June 09, 11:37 PM

well if it helps anyone i am flying southwest airlines and since i am going with my jerry thrifty buchanan it shouldnt save me much weight but i still wanna wear it ... sans kilt pin but with a sporran