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11th July 09, 07:01 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by Chas
Just a quick question to anybody who has had this done. Roughly how much does it cost? Thanks.
Regards
Chas
From $100 to $700, depending which one(s) you want, and how much detail you want. See http://www.familytreedna.com/products.aspx
There is a discount if you order through a surname project, and allow the results to be shared with others.
FTDNA has the largest database of the several testing companies, and therefore the most useful.
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14th July 09, 07:30 PM
#2
[QUOTE=gilmore;756673]We are all cousins. It's a question of degree. The most recent common ancestor of all humans lived sometime between the 6th millemium BCE and the 1st millenium CE. The most recent common ancestor of all Western Europeans may have lived as recently as 1000 CE. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_re...ommon_ancestor
Put another way, I have read that with a 99+% certainly, any human alive in western Europe in Charlemagne's time either died sine prole (or their descendants died sine prole,thus ending the line), or is the ancestor of every last one of us.
As the number of our ancestors doubles every generation we go back, it doesn't take very many generations to get to a greater number of ancestors than all the humans who have ever lived.
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14th July 09, 08:03 PM
#3
[QUOTE=Ozark Ridge Rider;758896]
 Originally Posted by gilmore
We are all cousins. It's a question of degree. The most recent common ancestor of all humans lived sometime between the 6th millemium BCE and the 1st millenium CE. The most recent common ancestor of all Western Europeans may have lived as recently as 1000 CE. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_re...ommon_ancestor
Put another way, I have read that with a 99+% certainly, any human alive in western Europe in Charlemagne's time either died sine prole (or their descendants died sine prole,thus ending the line), or is the ancestor of every last one of us.
As the number of our ancestors doubles every generation we go back, it doesn't take very many generations to get to a greater number of ancestors than all the humans who have ever lived.
Right, Charlemagne lived in the 8th and 9th Centuries, and the estimates are that the most recent common ancestor was some 200 years after that.
I have never come across an estimated date of the most recent common ancestor of those of British descent, but I would guess it would be even more recent, since the British Isles are separated from the continent, and the gene pool more isolated.
Some one famously said, "We (Europeans) are all descendants of Charlemange, but we are also all descendants of his stable boy." I don't remember how many reliable descents I have from Charlemagne---that is, how many times over he was an ancestor of mine--- but it's in the dozens, or scores. That may seem like a lot, and that my blood is excessively blue, but I have read that Prince William of Wales' traceable descents from Charlemagne are in the millions.
I am not particularly proud of my ancestry, since being born into it was done with no effort on my part, and was something that I had no control over (well, certainly not in this life, though who knows how karma generated in previous lives comes to fruition?) I am, however, a bit proud of the work that my family and I have done in genealogical research over the years. It can be fun, rewarding, and a project that a family can work on together.
It's much easier to trace ancestry through the royal, noble and famous, since the evidence---wills, evidence of marriage, inheritance, etc---are essentially documenation of the transfer of wealth. The poor---that is, the vast majority of our ancestors--- left no, or very little, of such evidence. It's also more challenging to research the more humble folk, since it's usually in virgin areas that few have worked before.
BTW an interesting and informative resource for medieval genealogy is http://groups.google.com/group/soc.g...edieval/topics
Last edited by gilmore; 18th July 09 at 09:41 PM.
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11th July 09, 12:36 PM
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I'm gonna have to do that some day.
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11th July 09, 12:46 PM
#5
Which service are you using?
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11th July 09, 01:34 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by St. Amish
Which service are you using?
Family Tree DNA. It has the largest database. I then entered the Y DNA results at www.ysearch.org and the mt DNA results at www.mitosearch.org
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18th July 09, 01:38 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by gilmore
The reason I ask is because my family members have tested with different companies at different times, to match profiles. Two companies, FamilyTreeDNA, and EthnoAncestry, were testing for different profiles, but used some of the same markers, each coming up with different values for the markers that they both happened to be testing with.
With something like DNA, there's no possible way that I could check the work myself, so I wonder if one or both of the services got it wrong.
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18th July 09, 10:01 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by St. Amish
The reason I ask is because my family members have tested with different companies at different times, to match profiles. Two companies, FamilyTreeDNA, and EthnoAncestry, were testing for different profiles, but used some of the same markers, each coming up with different values for the markers that they both happened to be testing with.
With something like DNA, there's no possible way that I could check the work myself, so I wonder if one or both of the services got it wrong.
I haven't heard of that before. That's an interesting issue.
There are some genetic genealogical groups at Yahoo Groups. You might post a query there about this. They are:
DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNA-AN...guid=270596405
DNA-NEWBIE at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNA-NE...guid=270596405
DNA-Testing · DNA Testng, Ancestry, And Archeology at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/D...guid=270596405
Good luck!
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11th July 09, 01:13 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by gilmore
What I find remarkable is that it's been some 200 to 400 years since my ancestors came to the US, for the most part, and people of Scots descent are still marrying each other.
Often communities of a particular ethnicity tend to stick together. I'm not so removed from the old country (Ireland) but my last ancestors born in Ireland lived a few miles apart from eachother in London, and went back to Ireland just to marry in her parish church, which was just across the bay from his parish, before going back to London as a married couple. whether they met in England or in Ireland I suppose we shall never know, but either of them might have married an English person, and didn't.
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11th July 09, 01:39 PM
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My Y-DNA test, with 67 markers, indicated that I am Celt-Iberian. Big surprise. So far, I've matched 12 markers with 6 Skenes/Skeans. The report explained this match as dating back 1,000 years or so before surnames were prominent.
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