material changes a tartan?

**fluter** · 19th November 09, 01:47 PM

PS: I think the grey examples are both STA #3121. Oh yes, they are linked from Scotweb. So looking at the URL's, we see it's a Batley 11 oz and the Marton Mills PV.

Originally Posted by kev_1270

... the second one would be called grey because???

Try looking at the same fabric on USAK's Web site: Here or at Marton Mills: here.

Remember that Scotweb can order you 16789 different tartans. Some of them will be woven to order, so they don't even exist yet, to scan or photograph.

Originally Posted by Smayniac

Scooby's mom used to make formal wear for an opera company. She discovered that in the early twentieth century, with the introduction of incandescent light, many makers went to midnight blue for formal jackets because it still appeared black under artificial lighting conditions.

I think the real reason was that the Duke of Windsor started wearing it.

I have a midnight blue dinner jacket which looks black---unless you see it under stage lighting next to a black one!

**kev_1270** · 19th November 09, 02:29 PM

fluter - thx for the link. I went to their sites and has issues trying to navigate to the actual PV tartan selections.

**Rex_Tremende** · 19th November 09, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by ForresterModern

...matched much better with the color palette (thanks Rex) ...

Regards,
Rex, changing one vocabulary at a time.

**Steve Ashton** · 19th November 09, 04:56 PM

Marton Mills 12 oz. Polyester/Rayon blend fabrics go by the name Balmoral.

They are found under the schoolwear tab on the Marton Mills site.

The variations on the Thompson Tartan that they weave are;

Thompson (M/Camel) BA139T Equivalent to ITI # 2421 ---- Please do not confuse this with Burburry.
Thompson (M/Grey) BA027T
Thompson (Grey/Small Sett) BA145T

**OC Richard** · 19th November 09, 05:35 PM

Yes actual swatches are a must, but even when the swatches come from the same mill there sometimes colour differences between the various weights.

You all know about the lovely "muted" range woven by House of Edgar.

In my avatar I'm wearing my band's tartan, Drummond of Perth, in HOE's muted colours.

Some of our band's kilts are 13oz, some 16oz, and the colours are not quite the same. The red in the heavier weight is slightly more purplish.

Oddly, the same tartan is listed as being in their "muted" range in one weight, but in their "modern" range in the other weight, in their sample books.