Review: Skye Highland Outfitters 8 yard PV

**billmcc** · 13th March 10, 09:30 AM

The OP titled this thread a "review" which usually encourages people to ask questions. The number of pleats and pleat depth are not unusual questions. I've seen such questions asked (and answered) on X-Marks many times.

**NorCalPiper** · 13th March 10, 09:37 AM

double post

**NorCalPiper** · 13th March 10, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by billmcc

The OP titled this thread a "review" which usually encourages people to ask questions. The number of pleats and pleat depth are not unusual questions. I've seen such questions asked (and answered) on X-Marks many times.

No one is making an issue about answering those questions. And I think they were answered as well.

**Riverkilt** · 13th March 10, 10:10 AM

Excuse me sir.

I don't think I'm all over the place or all worked up.

I've asked focused questions about a specific kilt in a kilt review thread. If I'd not asked them I'm guessing someone else would.

We all want to know how a new kiltmaker's work is done. A pretty common dynamic on this forum over the years.

For sure we aren't expected to say, "Nice Kilt" and line up to order one ourselves.

The back and forth about 8 yards was a generic explaination. Good for you for the extra material you include in the kilt and on the side, thank you for answering that question. I was curious to how Brice's measured out.

I'm asking Brice about HIS kilt because its a kilt review about HIS kilt. I stumbled on to the thread early on and just asked questions others surely would have asked too.

Obviously, if I became interested in purchasing a kilt from you I'd contact you with any unanswered questions.

**Tobus** · 13th March 10, 10:22 AM

Looks great, bricekolob! It has the look of an 8-yard wool kilt, and I suspect that nobody will even know it's PV except you, unless you tell them or they do a close detailed inspection.

I do have a question on the pleats. The only PV kilt I have is a USAK Casual kilt, and it has the "permapleats" that are stitched down along their length, all the way to the bottom so they will retain the sharp pleat line without ever needing pressing. Are your pleats done that way too? And on that subject (if anybody else wants to chime in), will PV hold a crisp fold over time without being stitched down? Or is it pretty much par for the course with PV that the pleats will either be stitched down or require regular pressing?

Anyway, your new kilt looks very nice and you wear it well! I've got an 8-yard wool kilt on the way, but I may be in the market for another PV kilt in the near future since I've lost some weight and my original PV kilt is getting too big. I had pretty much resigned myself to a PV kilt being only 4 yards, but I may have to rethink that after seeing yours!

**NorCalPiper** · 13th March 10, 10:36 AM

I believe Rocky's perma pleat are on his 4 yarders only He'd better know than I -I only have his causal models). We also stitch the pleat on our 4 yard models, but not on our 8 yard kilts. Having a pleat count on par with 8 yard wool kilts, coupled with our pleating techniques create a perfect pleat that needs no stitching past the fell. Our PV kilts behave and hold up just like a wool kilt.

**bricelythgoe** · 13th March 10, 10:50 AM

Riverkilt,

EDIT: I measured wrong. Ignore.

And yes, the permaplete thing is only on USAK casual, not the semi (if you search the threads you will find it)

I hope that answers your questions. But I was a little surprised about your questions. Partly because I felt a little dumb because I did not know the answers. Also, because I have reviewed kilts before and never go so many detailed questions. That is ok. With the help of Josh, we can get them all answered.

Brice

**Riverkilt** · 13th March 10, 12:32 PM

Brice, I like your kilt. It looks sharp as does all Marton Mills fabric. Your kiltmaker did a good job since the pleats hang well and the tartan looks good - for some reason it looks a little less "busy" than the Clark/clergy tartan usually does to me. I'm glad you're happy with it, that it fits well, and that you feel you got a great price on it.

With the kilt fashion boom start up kiltmaker's are emerging everywhere. I have nothing against start ups. Do always have a lot of questions. And as mentioned by others in this thread I don't think my questions were unusual - have seen them often on other threads over the years. Either the reviewer presents the information as part of the review or someone asks.

And, we've even had threads on thread...if you think about it without a thread designed to hold kilts together you'll soon be back to a piece of cloth rather than a kilt. And as Josh says, he's using Gutermann thread so you're fine there.

I am sorry I am having difficulty with the irony of the kilt being sewn from cloth woven in England, with thread made in Germany, by a California kiltmaker who has the signature line "If its not Scottish, its crap." At least the kilt straps and buckles come from Scotland.

Its all good. Really grateful to both you and Josh for presenting his work in such detail with so many photos and for being so open and responsive to follow up questions to your review.

The most important thing is that you're standing tall and proud in the photos.

**Riverkilt** · 13th March 10, 01:03 PM

And - to be fair...

You said this kilt fits better than your other three kilts, two ebay and a USA Casual. If I recall correctly your USA Casual was an off-the-rack Casual rather than a made-to-measure Casual....??

So it stands to reason that your Made-to-Measure Skye Highland Outfitters kilt is gonna fit better than any Off-the-Rack sized kilt from any kiltmaker.

ENJOY the wonder of a made-to-measure kilt and brace yourself for many more as your kilt addiction mushrooms.

Certainly, you need more than one tartan to select from...

**Nighthawk** · 13th March 10, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tobus

Looks great, bricekolob! It has the look of an 8-yard wool kilt, and I suspect that nobody will even know it's PV except you, unless you tell them or they do a close detailed inspection.

I do have a question on the pleats. The only PV kilt I have is a USAK Casual kilt, and it has the "permapleats" that are stitched down along their length, all the way to the bottom so they will retain the sharp pleat line without ever needing pressing. Are your pleats done that way too? And on that subject (if anybody else wants to chime in), will PV hold a crisp fold over time without being stitched down? Or is it pretty much par for the course with PV that the pleats will either be stitched down or require regular pressing?

Anyway, your new kilt looks very nice and you wear it well! I've got an 8-yard wool kilt on the way, but I may be in the market for another PV kilt in the near future since I've lost some weight and my original PV kilt is getting too big. I had pretty much resigned myself to a PV kilt being only 4 yards, but I may have to rethink that after seeing yours!

I have one of the USAK semitrads- ones without the permapleat system- and it actually holds the pleats better than any of my wool kilts. The wool needs pressing regularly, and the PV I have had for 3 years now, and I haven't had to press it once. I put it in the dryer in a Dryall dryer bag with a wet washcloth, put in the dryer for ten minutes, hang it, and all the wrinkles fall out and it looks good as new.