A Q. for "True Highlanders"

[Kornkob]

That sounds interesting care to expand?

Not that it is relevant to this discussion specifically but... its the fallacy where an assertion is made that a scotsman would never do something and when an example to the contrary is found the assertion is that that person is no TRUE scotsman. Usually the initial assertion is begging the question and the speaker falls into NTS by refusing to acknowledge the initial fallacy.

the No True Scotsman Fallacy was one of the couple dozen fallacies that I remember studying in college.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

[Jordan]

That kind of made sence I think.

[Now back to your regurlarly scheduled topic]

[MacLowlife]

The topic being optional and I having little to add to it, I will observe that these nice stripey ties are on sale for just $13 American:



http://www.landsend.com/pp/MensWideS...5&origin=index

OK, so one is blue and red and MIGHT be considered a Guards' stripe, but there are several other options. Lands End sells nice ties and they may have a free shipping deal going.

[Urchurdan]

I attended a lecture during the National Gaelic Mod, when the Lecturer, a Gael said that no true Gael (Highlander) needs to, or should wear the kilt, as their 'Highlandness' was their birthright, and they had no need to show it with Tartan, the Gaelic language was the true sign of a Highlander.
He and others also suggest, that myself and people like me ie learners of gaelic, should not be speaking the language, that only true Gaels should use the language.
The Lecturer is a prominent Announcer on Gaelic Radio.
I can only say, what a bigotted and short sighted view that is, Gaelic will die if we do not have learners of the language, and kilt wearing would have been extinct today apart from the kilted Regiments if it were not for the people outside of the Highlands, and indeed outside of Scotland.
I would suggest not to listen to this claptrap, it represents a view of a tiny minority of narrow minded people, it is certainly not the view of the VAST majority of people - Gaels or otherwise in Scotland. Keep on Kilting......

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Not to mention that all the woolen mills that produce the tartan cloth would be forced to shut down for lack of business...

[Micric]

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your replies! I already had my own ideas on this, (That kilts and kilt business, as Matt just mentioned, would soon die out.)
To me, the important thing is If we lowlanders and "B...... foriegners" wear the kilt, we should wear it well, taking advice, not in a manner that makes anyone cringe!

My pal did go on to say that the True kilt was in some peril, from all the cheap shoddy merchandise peddled these days.
I think without wearers outside the highlands, that "peril" the kilt is in, would soon become death throes...

[MacBean]

I was disappointed when I first came to the States not to find cowboys.
I was disappointed when I first went to Scotland not find kilts.
In an perfect world, I'd agree with Jock on this; I wish the lovely regionalisms of speech, garment, and food were intact.

We can only blame that ubiquitous purveyor of the hamburger and symbolism of creeping globalism: Mcdonalds.

[artificer]

I was disappointed when I first came to the States not to find cowboys.
I was disappointed when I first went to Scotland not find kilts.
In an perfect world, I'd agree with Jock on this; I wish the lovely regionalisms of speech, garment, and food were intact.

We can only blame that ubiquitous purveyor of the hamburger and symbolism of creeping globalism: Mcdonalds.

Aye, but don't forget Hollywood, Nike, air travel and the internet.

Regional variation existed because people "didn't get around". In a closed system you have that Darwinian specialization to better perform within your specific group and surroundings. You ate what was around you, wore what was made nearby, and everyone started to use the same jargon/slang.

As much as I hate the food-service-mass-produced-generic-trainers-levis-blandness that has effected the most of the modern world, I don't want to go back to eating nothing but potatoes, onions, cabbages, pickles and apples all winter (because they were the only things that would keep).

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[Ancienne Alliance]

Not to mention that all the woolen mills that produce the tartan cloth would be forced to shut down for lack of business...

Matt always hits the nail in rrrright on it's head.

The "b----y foriegners" business is a delicate... and tiresome one.


Best,

Robert

[JerseyLawyer]

This isn't exactly a new idea. After all, in The Devil's Dictionary, published c. 1906, Ambrose Bierce famously defined our favored garment thusly:

KILT, n. A costume sometimes worn by Scotchmen in America and Americans in Scotland.

So, tell them that the wearing of the kilt by "demmed furriners" has a provenance of at least a hundred years.