Members Arms, Crests, Badges.

[David Thorpe]

My arms, from another very recent thread.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...71/index4.html

[cessna152towser]

Argent, a shake-fork Sable cantoned between in chief a cogwheel and in each flank a four-bladed propeller Gules, Above the Shield is placed an Helm befitting his degree with a Mantling Sable doubled Argent, and on a Wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest a unicorn's head Argent armed Or langued Gules charged of a cogwheel Azure, and in an Escrol over the same this Motto "ALTERUM NON LAEDERE".

These Arms were granted by the Lord Lyon when I achieved recognition as a Scottish Armiger.

The shakefork and unicorn's head derive from the Arms of the Cunningham family.
The cogwheels and propellers were suggested by David Sellar, Lord Lyon King of Arms, the cogwheels to represent the engineering pedigree of my father, grandfather, great grandfather and great great grandfather Cunningham and the propellers to represent that my father was an aircraft engineer and that I was a private pilot.
The motto, which translates as To Injure Nobody was originally chosen by me when I was admitted as a Scottish Notary Public in 1976.

[saharris]

Argent, a shake-fork Sable cantoned between in chief a cogwheel and in each flank a four-bladed propeller Gules, Above the Shield is placed an Helm befitting his degree with a Mantling Sable doubled Argent, and on a Wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest a unicorn's head Argent armed Or langued Gules charged of a cogwheel Azure, and in an Escrol over the same this Motto "ALTERUM NON LAEDERE".

Very nice! but I don't understand the use of "cantoned" in the blazon... ???

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Very nice! but I don't understand the use of "cantoned" in the blazon... ???

It means "set between" and is usually applied to a cross set between four objects. Since the shake fork creates three "compartments" it is said to be cantoned between the chief and the dexter and sinister flanks.

[saharris]

It means "set between" and is usually applied to a cross set between four objects. Since the shake fork creates three "compartments" it is said to be cantoned between the chief and the dexter and sinister flanks.

Couldn't it be left out? Wouldn't "Argent, a shake-fork Sable between in chief a cogwheel and in each flank a four-bladed propeller Gules" be the same?

[Chas]

Couldn't it be left out? Wouldn't "Argent, a shake-fork Sable between in chief a cogwheel and in each flank a four-bladed propeller Gules" be the same?

I would have thought so.

Regards

Chas

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Couldn't it be left out? Wouldn't "Argent, a shake-fork Sable between in chief a cogwheel and in each flank a four-bladed propeller Gules" be the same?

Since this is a legal document issued by the Court of the Lord Lyon, I suspect that the word cantoned appears in the blazon for the explicit reason of disambiguation. In other words, it's all about the legal precision of the language used in the blazon as it relates to the position of the major and minor charges, Lyon's language being more precise than a blazon that omits the word 'cantoned'.

[Gael Ridire]

I posted my grant in the closed thread. One can see my arms and crest in my avatar. "Ermine on a chevron vert between two swords in saltire points upward proper pommels and hilts or and in base a dexter hand fessways couped at the wrist also proper holding a cross crosslet fitchee gules, a sun in splendor gold." CREST: "A lion passant guardant or." MOTTO: "Mar a chuirtear bainfear." (Gaelic, It is taken as given, i.e. Reap what you sow.) The crest wreath are of the liveries vert & white (not argent), manteling is "gules doubled argent." Date of 31 July 1992, Vol.X, folio 33, Chief Herald of Ireland.

The surname was changed from O'Bryan to Bryant on immigration to Colorado from Canada by my 2nd great-grandfather, who's parents came from County Clare, Ireland, to Canada about 1830. Since the surname is different from the Chief of the O'Brien Clan, my arms are not based on those, but my arms do have elements of the ancient O'Brien arms (a dexter forearm holding a sword in pale), and the lion passant guardant for my crest is from the modern arms. Personaly I served in two branches of the U.S. military (active duty in Air Force during Vietnam) and Army National Guard later. I also am a former Olympic style fencing coach teaching youth. For the grant I instructed to have the swords drawn in the style of the Portglenone or ring pommel/hillt sword unique to Ireland.

The hand holding a cross crosslet fitchee is said to traditonally have been the symbol of the Kindred of St. Columcille of Iona. My mother's ancestry is from Glenveagh, Donegal, about ten miles west of the birthplace of St. Columcille. Two of the charges on the Donegal County arms is a cross crosslet fitchee on a shield of ermine.

The green chevron is for Ireland, and the sun is a canting charge to alude to my wife's surname of Day.

Ireland grants badges to the grantee but not to his descendants. I assumed a badge (since all armigers are entiled to a badge) of a Columbine flower that has a billet between each of its five petals. When looking down at a columbine flower it looks like a five pointed star. The state flower of Colorado is the Columbine, which is named after St. Columcille, it is also etched on the tombstone of my 2nd great-grandfather. The five billets represent the five generations between myself and the immigrant, it also is in remeberance of the sidewalk of silver bricks that were laid out in front of Colorado's Central City's Teller Hotel for the visit of U.S. Pres. Ulysses S. Grant to walk on from his carriage to the hotel door during his visit in 1872/3. The silver bricks were made by William O'Bryan/Bryant.

My purpose for a grant from Ireland is that it was confirming my Irish birthright that was taken away from me when the surname was changed.

[Ethanintn]

Mr.Cannon,what do all those symbols at the bottom of the first picture of your arms mean?

Thank-you and stand sure,

Ethan Walling

[SlackerDrummer]

Mr.Cannon,what do all those symbols at the bottom of the first picture of your arms mean?

Those are Harold's various badges, which can be seen in the fly of his standard right below the first image. Most people, if they have a badge at all, will only have one badge. IIRC Harold chose to create a series of badges, each to be used in specific context (e.g. one for clan affiliated activities, one for his firefighter work, etc.).