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20th January 14, 10:44 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JonathanB
The red. I have a Hunting tartan (Cornish) and a Black Watch, and I thought I wanted a change from tasteful green. So I looked at reds, for which my friendly kilt maker had samples, and it was down to Scott (modern) and Robertson.
I like the white stripe in Scott so I went for that. I've read most of Sir Walter's novels, and intend to read the rest in the next few months, plus The Lady of the Lake and The Lay of the Last Minstrel, so I hope any Scott will not be offended by my choice of their tartan, given my devotion to their most famous literary member.
Well, you have a good story to go with it. It has been said before you don't have to have Scottish blood in your veins as long as you have a drop of Scottish in your heart. Thank you for choosing our sett for a reason other than "it was pretty," much appreciated.
I am not quite sure of the title you get, I am cousins with EagleJCS (above) Riverkilt and SevenOaks that I know of here.
I think I will go with "adopted cousin" and shorthand that "cousin" until advised otherwise by folks more up on these things than me. I have made this decision because I am number 247,894,966 in line for the crown of England...
Cousin, did you go with Locharron, House of Edgar or other for the red? I have swatches of the red from both LA and HOE, not an easy decision.
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24th January 14, 10:33 AM
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Thanks, cousin AK. That's really good to hear. The tartan is Marton Mills. Yes, I know it's woven in England, but it was the only one available. And from where I was born, Yorkshire (where MM is based) is farrrr North. (I see where you are is postively Arctic by comparison.)
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1st March 14, 05:12 AM
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I'm wearing the Scott tartan kilt as I write. It's fabulous!
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1st March 14, 06:12 AM
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I've been invited to wear the Scott tartan via my girlfriends family (and after sharing several drams with the Scott Cheiftan here in the US) and I must say, they sure do have so lovely tartans.
-Jonathan
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1st March 14, 03:47 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by McClef
There is a Clan Douglas to which the actual heir is the Alexander Douglas-Hamilton, 16th Duke of Hamilton who is Chief of Clan Hamilton and is not allowed to be the actual Douglas Chief since the Lord Lyon King of Arms requires him to assume the single name Douglas. I assume that if he were to do so then his Chieftainship of Clan Hamilton would be then affected.
I thought the Earl of Home, presently David Douglas-Home, had precedence over the Douglas-Hamilton line, as Elisabeth Countess of Home was the elder sister at the time of the death of the last Lord Douglas (her Father). Her younger sister married into the Hamilton family.
The Kilt is my delight !
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1st March 14, 06:46 PM
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Scott Weathered Green is one of the most gorgeous tartans ever created in my opinion. It's fabulous in every way.
:-D
Love all the Scott tartans.
The Official [BREN]
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2nd March 14, 04:23 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by freddie
I thought the Earl of Home, presently David Douglas-Home, had precedence over the Douglas-Hamilton line, as Elisabeth Countess of Home was the elder sister at the time of the death of the last Lord Douglas (her Father). Her younger sister married into the Hamilton family.
The father of David Douglas-Home was Alec Douglas-Home and his mother was Elizabeth Arlington, daughter of the Master of Eton College, who not a Douglas at all, and descended from the Spencer family. Alec Douglas-Home disclaimed his peerage in order to become Prime Minster and took a life peerage on his retirement which cannot be inherited. However, David was able to inherit his father's disclaimed peerage upon his death. He is the Clan Chief of Clan Home not Douglas. Even if one could establish precedence (my previous remarks were based upon the precedence of the Douglas-Hamiltons having been established by the Lord Lyon) the same reason given by the Lord Lyon would still hold true, ie a single name.
Elizabeth Arlington's sisters were Lavinia who married Sir Roger Mynors, academic and classical scholar, and Joan who married Rev. John Wilkes, Master in College and later House Master at Eton, Warden of Radley College and later vicar of Marlow. So neither marred into the Hamilton family.
While is was a student at St Andrews I had the honour of meeting both the then Sir Alec Douglas-Home and his wife then then Lady Douglas-Home.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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3rd March 14, 03:20 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by McClef
The father of David Douglas-Home was Alec Douglas-Home and his mother was Elizabeth Arlington, daughter of the Master of Eton College, who not a Douglas at all, and descended from the Spencer family. Alec Douglas-Home disclaimed his peerage in order to become Prime Minster and took a life peerage on his retirement which cannot be inherited. However, David was able to inherit his father's disclaimed peerage upon his death. He is the Clan Chief of Clan Home not Douglas. Even if one could establish precedence (my previous remarks were based upon the precedence of the Douglas-Hamiltons having been established by the Lord Lyon) the same reason given by the Lord Lyon would still hold true, ie a single name.
Elizabeth Arlington's sisters were Lavinia who married Sir Roger Mynors, academic and classical scholar, and Joan who married Rev. John Wilkes, Master in College and later House Master at Eton, Warden of Radley College and later vicar of Marlow. So neither marred into the Hamilton family.
While is was a student at St Andrews I had the honour of meeting both the then Sir Alec Douglas-Home and his wife then then Lady Douglas-Home.
The Elisabeth (Elizabeth?) Countess of Home I refer to lived in the 1850's and her Father, the last Lord Douglas, died in 1856, (I think). I'll need to dust off my old clan history books and check it all out again.
The Kilt is my delight !
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3rd March 14, 08:20 PM
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Nice to hear stuff about Clan Scott. My fathers maternal grandmother given name was Anne Scott. Have 2 Scott kilts, one red modern and the other green, really like the red one.
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4th March 14, 03:09 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by freddie
The Elisabeth (Elizabeth?) Countess of Home I refer to lived in the 1850's and her Father, the last Lord Douglas, died in 1856, (I think). I'll need to dust off my old clan history books and check it all out again.
You can appreciate the confusion by not putting dates as I naturally linked David Douglas-Home with his mother which led me to believe that there was a misapprehension as to facts.
She had been Countess of Home only briefly as her husband disclaimed the title to become PM but nevertheless this had been the case. She had several changes of title, firstly Miss Elizabeth Arlington, then Lady Dunglass (the courtesy title of her husband which meant he could sit in the House of Commons) then Countess of Home when he succeeded to the Peerage, then Lady Elizabeth Douglas-Home when he disclaimed his peerage and took a Knighthood and finally Lady Home of the Hirsel when he took a life peerage.
Let's see what your dusty clan books come up with now this has been cleared up.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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