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4th September 04, 02:06 AM
#1
Welcome to the board Daniel, glad to hear from a member in Austria, I think you may be the first.
My wife says that men have no idea how to sit as women do in a skirt.
I tell her that men have their way, and it's different to women!
You soon develope the aformentioned habits, that included bending, kneeling etc.
Wearing a kilt is very different to trousers, but it's fun.
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4th September 04, 12:25 PM
#2
gmen - have u been to austria. i ve also relatives in florida and canade but never was there. is denver in wintertime very cold?
im sorry about having to say that from the western countries waering the kilt is quite rare. i ve searched for a scene in austria, which for sure is a small country but even big countries as germany or france had only very few websites. how is the situation in norway freelander? and yes i ve made the same experience kilt in snowy windy winter keeps us really moving ;)
and why u go specially to chutch in kilt ?
@breecher: i ve worn my duffle coat with kilt in winter but i would say a shorter and even for me warmer jacket would look better. even with my hairy legs...
but in our hot austrian summers i were really lightweight kilts anout 10 oz, but in winter i mind if even a 16 oz is warm enough. is it usual to wear heavier kilts or are they hard to find, considered that i couldnßt afford at the moment a new tailormade kilt.
graham, yeah it must be different because girls skirts are in fact very unpractical. the look may look good, on the other hand women can sit and wear those skirts without the need to spread their legs, what for our anatomy is the first thing i would say.
regards,
mcnice
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4th September 04, 02:45 PM
#3
Daniel,
Unfortunately I have not been to Austria, even though I want to very badly, but someday I know I will.
I have relatives all over North America including Florida, but right now I am concerned about them because of Hurricane Frances hitting right where they live (Palm Beach) I am having a few anxious moments.
Denver can get cold in the winter, but because of where it sits in relation to the mountains and plains it does not stay cold long as it would do in the mountains. I have been kilted when the temperature was well below zero, and have not experienced any problems, and it does not freeze like trousers would while walking.
It really sounds as if you are beginning to enjoy the wearing of the kilt, I appreciate the fact that more and more people are accepting and wearing a kilt, just continue to do so, and remember we are all here too support each other!
Glen McGuire
A Life Lived in Fear, Is a Life Half Lived.
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4th September 04, 03:35 PM
#4
I am really new to this but so far I have not had any problems sitting with my legs actually quite far apart in my AmeriKilt. It just falls between my legs and if not quickly enough, I help it by pushing it down.
As far as men not having any Idea how to sit in a "Skirt" well "we" might be new to this but men have been wearing them since God clothed Adam and Eve... 
If your happy and you know it spread your pleats! (Modestly)
Oh My I must be getting to be a blabber mouth, I see with this post I have been promoted???
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4th September 04, 05:41 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by mcnice
@breecher: i ve worn my duffle coat with kilt in winter but i would say a shorter and even for me warmer jacket would look better. even with my hairy legs...
but in our hot austrian summers i were really lightweight kilts anout 10 oz, but in winter i mind if even a 16 oz is warm enough. is it usual to wear heavier kilts or are they hard to find, considered that i couldnßt afford at the moment a new tailormade kilt.
I've worn both a Utilikilt (heavy cotton fabric) and a 4-yard poly/viscose kilt in the -26C temperatures I mentioned. I wore them with wool kilt hose pulled up to just below my knees, and the kilts fell to just above my knees. Like I said, sure I was chilly, but no more than anyone else. Even four yards of relatively light poly/viscose is more material around my thighs than any trousers. The only part of my I found colder than when I wore trousers were my hands, because I was wearing a sweater on my torso and not my usual coat (which is too long for a kilt) so I had nowhere to put my gloved hands (I wore gloves, but they were still cold). My nose got cold. My ears got cold. But not my legs.
Andrew.
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4th September 04, 07:12 PM
#6
concerning the cold, i think too that trousers become wet and then with the wind blowing on trousers, they are in fact not as good as a warm air betwenn our legs, because air is good conditioner. air betwenn our legs saves the warmth much better, but the problem with the short kilt is not even the cold but the stitching wind as we say in german that is making the trouble. when wind gives a nice aircondition in summer, it blows under the kilt and then i got in my only few trys from last winter in kilt serious troubles. i would say its not the hardfact from the temperature but the icy wind going often with it.
we would then need long capes to the shoes.
also i ve read recently that humans absorbe up 80% of their body heat from the head, and the fewest rates from the legs. so if the rest is covered, should work. but wind makes a big relativation i think.
in fact i enjoy the kilt only since a year and i got completly crazy about scotland and kilts. i really wear only kilts from this time but yet i couldīnt enjoy it in wintertime unless i really want to get my solution for that. i will try it in this winter with my medium weight 5 yard kilts and the tailormade but lighter 8 yard one, cause my summerkilts i only had last winter were for sure not the best way. i ve ordered now a utilikilt but i think its also for warmer climates isnīt it? i could imagine that a really heavy army kilt would do it better; but a 22 oz kilt is also quite rare or not?
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4th September 04, 09:12 PM
#7
That's the truth, I do a lot of hiking, last trip I did in the snow my wife and son wore trousers which got cold and wet. I was comfy in a kilt, while the blizzard stung my legs with the wind-driven snow, but it was stimulating too, and when the snow ceased my legs were dry.
I've walked in a 16oz wool kilt, it's lovely and warm but not good wet.
A USAK poly vis is not as warm but it dries much quicker.
I've yet to find a good raincoat that is completely waterproof and will cover me down to the kilt.
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6th September 04, 01:54 PM
#8
i went out today with my tailormade kilt, thats the one which apron i didn īt changed yet.
to clear up: this freaky apron is so broad covers even the left outer side of my left leg.
a karate chop helps when sitting down, but when i moved, espacially keeping the legs when sitting for example a bit closer and then respreading them needs a new chop, because this long apron takes its normal position back: nothing between my legs.
how long do u wear ur aprons?
mine have all been adjusted, and i thought before thats the only way. at my kilts the cover just the middle, sometimes the front of my left leg, but not its side.
sorry for my over-subtle question, but with shorter aprons at least i only need maybe ( at only 2 of my 7 kilts) on small fingering.
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6th September 04, 06:06 PM
#9
The apron should wrap from the hip bone of one side to the hip bone of the other side, leaving the pleats only in back. The buckles will then be slighly just behind your hip bones on both sides. Are you wearing it this way? Otherwise, instead of having the apron wrap more on one side than the other I'd just centre it and have it a little long on both sides.
The length of the apron should be somewhere between the top of your knee and the middle of your knee, depending on your preference. Traditionally, when you kneel the edge of the kilt should be just above the floor.
In regards to sitting, I've noticed I've learned to better sit with my legs together naturally. Otherwise, a simple push on the middle of the apron will take care of hiding all your bits and pieces. When you move you may have to re-push the apron down.
Andrew.
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7th September 04, 04:55 AM
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yeah i wore th ekilt this way, but so the apron is to broad because it covered as i said the outer side of my left leg too, what i presum e is too much. i like it even a bit a bit slender than at hip bone level: i then have not to do karate chop neither to readjust him. touching the middle of my left leg seemed to me the best way.
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