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12th December 16, 02:04 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by Geoff Withnell
Well, we are talking about two different things. You are talking the perception of cold, and I am talking about being cold, maintaining core body temperature and preventing frostbite.
So at sub-freezing temperatures, covering the knees can be crucial.
On maintaining body temperature if you are out in the cold doing things, walking, working, etc, it is the parts of the body with muscle tissue such as the calves and thighs, which will have blood flowing through them to maintain their function.
If they are not insulated, this blood gets chilled, and is carried by the circulation back to the body core, and chills the whole body.
Not sure which part of the world you are from but don't agree.
The only times I have ever had frost bite has been when I picked up something (eg. a lump of metal or something), which is at ambient temp (i.e. -30C or so).
It was in Russia, and I was astonished to see the cold burn.
Guess what..it's the classic extremities that get it BANG!
...the place where blood circulation retreats quickest - fingers, toes, NOT stuff which is in the middle of the body like knees or arms.
As for the "core temp" stuff, I may know a little what I am talking about here.
If you routinely swim in water below 5C, to as low as zero or below & air temps as low as -12 with a wind, then really you become much more uniquely aware of the cooling and warming phases, and have to be really FIT.
Every degree below 5C is a serious progression.
Water conducts heat away from the body 25 times faster than air, but nearly always the water in winter is warmer than the surrounding air, so you get this curious effect, where a wind off the sea at -10C, when coming out of the water, at -1C doesn't feel cold.
The circulation then having retreated completely going right back to keep the core temp stable, then bursts back out in what appears like a burning flame from inside.
(that's the moment while recirculating cold blood into the core, that people with heart problems drop dead).
Getting accustomed to the cold, is something that conditioning makes possible.
It's also one of the most astonishing adrenaline fuelled experiences possible to have.
The feeling of well being is something that is unimaginably good.
"Being cold" after that, simply doesn't enter into the equation any more.
Everything is simply different degrees of warmth.
Ice after all can't be colder than 0C. 
(except in the sea down to -1>-2C).
Of course I found this on the web about hpothermia, but I don't think you're risking that in a kilt.
https://www.princeton.edu/~oa/safety/hypocold.shtml
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12th December 16, 02:10 PM
#12
Contrarian that I am, it has to get very, VERY cold--which of course it does at times here at 41.8781° N, 87.6298° W--for me to stop wearing my kilts, but that said, trews have always been a sensible alternative, as evidenced by depictions and descriptions of, for example, Ancient Roman imperial soldiers wearing either three-quarter or full-length leggings (Braccae) with their standard-issue knee-length tunic (Tunica) when if/conditions warranted. So it's a matter of individual/personal preference I suppose.
Best Regards,
DyerStraits
"I Wish Not To Intimidate, And Know Not How To Fear"
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12th December 16, 02:29 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by DyerStraits
Ancient Roman imperial soldiers wearing either three-quarter or full-length leggings (Braccae) with their standard-issue knee-length tunic (Tunica) when if/conditions warranted. So it's a matter of individual/personal preference I suppose.
I'm not suprised, in Roman times the world was a whole 2C warmer than it is today.
So much for global warming and all the *$&^@!@p from PARIS and the "climate change" never been so warm lobby.
They were making wine in Northumberland in the 1st century AD!
In medieval times it was about 1C warmer than today, so again people could adapt to a very green world.
Generally speaking you will find clothing has had to adapt to the northern hemisphere roller coaster between Dalton & Maunder minima, the forced depopulation of the Scottish highlands, the annual freezing of the Thames, to today's modern maximum which peaked in about 1988-90.
Now we're cooling for 17 years, and I'll walk up to my knees in snowdrifts at -25C, no worry at all...
In fact last winter I had to walk 2 miles in a snowstorm to get petrol in a can, because the car had run dry. 
FOR THOSE THAT DECIDED TO FLAG THIS POST FOR "PROFANITY", the blanked out remark was "mickey mouse".
It was an intentional guessing game, provoked by the usual question"what is worn under the kilt".
(Mickey mouse of course, and global warming, being the correct answers)
Any attempt to try to prove otherwise, can easily be disproved by checking the geographic locations of 48.8722° N, 2.7758° E, and that of the Eiffel tower 48.8584° N, 2.2945° E.
So you can easily go and visit, even talk to Mickey by taking a short train ride from the centre of Paris, and ask him for yourself
Last edited by estimaa; 19th December 16 at 02:52 PM.
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12th December 16, 02:37 PM
#14
Taht kind of weather is what they invented great coats for. Or you could opt for a horseman's cloak, with shoulder straps to prevent strangulation.
Christoph
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12th December 16, 03:27 PM
#15
Here you can buy a Bekesha.
201110182135000.polush1.jpg
Not sure if I want to appear like some soviet army left over in this part of the world however, and it probably weighs a ton!
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12th December 16, 04:17 PM
#16
I was thinking more along the lines of a US Army great coat with shoulder cape.
 Originally Posted by estimaa
Here you can buy a Bekesha.
Not sure if I want to appear like some soviet army left over in this part of the world however, and it probably weighs a ton!
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12th December 16, 04:55 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by lschwartz
So, how many of you wear the kilt when the temperature hits the 40's F or below
I do. It rarely gets cold enough in my neck of the woods, although the wind can be a factor.
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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12th December 16, 06:26 PM
#18
I have worn the kilt in cold weather

When this photo was taken I was so warm I had to take off my jacket and hat, what you can't see are winter boots, I have found that if I keep my feet, head and hands warm then everything else is fine. Lets face it everybody has cold knees in the winter.
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12th December 16, 06:52 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by Macman
I do. It rarely gets cold enough in my neck of the woods, although the wind can be a factor.
I do. On the coast of the Salish Sea, where I am today, the temperature was 3C at 3 pm. That's normal for December/January. At Tomatin near Inverness, my other home, the temperature was 5C at 3 pm. Wear the equivalent of two sheep and only your nose will be cold. Staying dry is a bigger problem than keeping warm.
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12th December 16, 06:56 PM
#20
I wear the kilt down to about -25 Celsius or so. Even colder if the wind is minimal, but then again it's rarely that cold without the wind having a lot to do with it.
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