Hats

[Jock Scot]

[QUOTE=OC Richard;1410101]Thanks!
Post deleted dual post. Sorry.

[Jock Scot]

Thanks!

Of all those styles, only the deerstalker with ear-flaps doesn't make sense for sunny places.

If you have the flaps up your ears will get sunburned and if you have the flaps down you'll cut off the breeze and get bit warm.

However a local Scot, Colin Gordon, invariably wore that type of hat, kilted, when performing at our local Highland Games. He was the founder of The Scottish Fiddlers of Los Angeles, said to be the first Strathspey & Reel Society outwith Scotland.

AHA! The trick there is to wear the flaps on the baggy side, just don't have the flaps tied up too tight at the top.

[Jock Scot]

AHA! The trick there is to wear the flaps on the baggy side, just don't have the flaps tied up too tight at the top.

I think that I need to expand a tad, on the above.

When the bonnet is new, the flaps will be fairly stiff, so getting the "baggy" look takes time and regular wear. You chaps need to understand that these bonnets are often worn as everyday, all-weather, all-occasion attire by ghillies, stalkers, game keepers, farmers, shepherds, country sportsmen/women and so on. So a new bonnet gets "worn in" fairly quickly, so in a few months the new bonnet achieves the baggie-ness to allow the flaps to have the necessary "blousing ability" when required to give the ears some modicum of protection from the sun. Unlike the occasional wearer who might take quite a long time to achieve the same effect.

[Jock Scot]

Right then O.C.R., has THE bonnet arrived yet?

[jsrnephdoc]

Well done, The bottom centre and bottom right pictures are very familiar shapes here! I hope it fits!

The history of Dunn & Co. is an interesting one and it near demise is a sign of the times, I am afraid.

Just in case those who are unfamiliar with these bonnets, the bottom right picture is not usually worn with the flaps down!They are usually worn with the flaps tied up with a bow above the head. However out on the hill, or by the waterside in wild and wet weather those flaps are worn down and tied under the chin and are a godsend!

I wear hats a lot (including a flat cap, but that never with a kilt). I cannot imagine myself as a Sherlock Holmes impersonator in a deer stalker, but the bottom center hat in OC Richard's assembly looks really nice.

My spouse and I just watched the amazing Meryl Streep in Death Becomes Her after she received special accolades at Sunday Night's Academy Awards Show. So, given OC Richard's post followed by your "near" demise response, I must ask, "which is it?" Mr. Google seems not to have any information on that question.

[OC Richard]

I cannot imagine myself as a Sherlock Holmes impersonator in a deer stalker...

That's the thing, in a place where it's not all that uncommon a style you would just look like a person wearing a hat.

It reminds me of Western Wear. If a local duded up in Western Wear in Scotland it could be taken as a person impersonating a cowboy. But in Texas they'd just be a person wearing clothes.

BTW I had thought for years that it was illustrator Sidney Paget who had put a Deerstalker on Holmes' head, because he's shown wearing one in stories where his dress isn't mentioned, and in a story in which it's simply described as a "country cap".

But in Silver Blaze it's clearly described as "his earflapped travelling cap". (It's not shown as Houndstooth or any other pattern.)

[jsrnephdoc]

That's the thing, in a place where it's not all that uncommon a style you would just look like a person wearing a hat.

It reminds me of Western Wear. If a local duded up in Western Wear in Scotland it could be taken as a person impersonating a cowboy. But in Texas they'd just be a person wearing clothes.

My wife's father was a "famous" (in quotes because back then they didn't get any mention in the credits) Texas Cowboy movie stuntman, with a shrine in the Ft. Worth "Texas Cowboy Hall of Fame." He was also a sprinter for the U Texas Longhorns, leading to an Olympic Gold in the 1952 Helsinki Olympics and a brief few months with the LA Rams until someone suggested that given his background his knees were more likely to survive celluloid bar fights than collisions with cornerbacks in the NFL. Although Christine grew up in "The Valley," her dad returned back to his roots on a ranch near Graham, TX after he retired from the movie business. Every time we went to see him I marveled at the sheer NUMBER of "Stetson" boxes almost functioning as wallpaper stacked against the perimeter of his living room.

He doubled Robert Redford in several films; they weren't exactly friends, living at polar opposites on the political spectrum. But he certainly returned to his roots, papa to two small herds of Longhorns and a few horses "down on the Brazos" and surviving to age 92!

But your comparison of what I might wear to dinner to a guy strutting down the Royal Mile in a Stetson and a pair of Tecovas is certainly unsettling. I'm kilted often enough that I don't feel like a cartoon, and even when my only bit of Celtic wear is a Balmorral, I get lots of truly approving questions and NEVER any rebukes or looks of astonished amusement here in Montana. Indeed, I'd feel more uncomfortable in Western Wear than i do in a Kilt and Argyll or sweater, because the former are more foreign to my own roots.

And I remain curious about what you think of the second red fox dress sporran pic I posted in the active "sporrans" thread.

[Jock Scot]

-------- but the bottom center hat in OC Richard's assembly looks really nice.

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That particular bonnet I would describe that as a "fore and aft".

I am not in any way wishing to stir up a "hornets nest" but I do find it strange and amusing that you chaps will wear the Scottish kilt quite happily and shy away from wearing perfectly typical Scottish bonnet.

[jsrnephdoc]

That particular bonnet I would describe that as a "fore and aft".

I am not in any way wishing to stir up a "hornets nest" but I do find it strange and amusing that you chaps will wear the Scottish kilt quite happily and baulk at wearing perfectly typical Scottish bonnet.

No "stirring" needed. Deer Stalkers are seen atop heads in the local Montana winters quite commonly. I'm just more comfortable in a Balmoral or Glengarry. My dad was fond of his fedoras, and my wife's dad was never separated from his Stetsons, but I wear neither, ever.

I'll keep searching for a nice wool "fore and aft."

[MacKenzie]

Oh, the confusion...

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