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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    We should remember that there were more Scots who were against the Jacobite cause than were for it...
    Indeed.

    And, much like the American Civil War split families, the 1745 uprising split clans.

    During the Jacobite rising of 1745 the Clan MacKenzie was divided: The chief, Kenneth MacKenzie, Lord Fortrose, did not support the Jacobites and raised several Independent Highland Companies from the Clan MacKenzie to support the British Government. However, a large part of the Clan Mackenzie followed the chief's cousin, George MacKenzie, 3rd Earl of Cromartie who was a Jacobite.
    Incidentally, the Jacobite MacKenzies following George were stopped at the Battle of Littleferry on April 15 and prevented from joining the rest of the Jacobites at Culloden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post

    James, as the king of Scotland and now of England too, had declared that from his accession, all inhabitants of both kingdoms would no longer be enemies, that all would be equal and enjoy the same rights in each other's countries, with freedom of movement, and that Scotland and England would heceforth be known as North Britain and South Britain respectively. We all know how successful that last bit has been.
    And it was as James I that he introduced the Statutes of Iona which did more to damage and dismantle Highland Culture than any later British (perceived by some as English government) did.
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    Well thats confused the colonials and many resident Scots even more! With the greatest of respect and with touch of humour, if they don't understand the difference between English and British------and most, I fear, don't appear to----- we might as well talk to the trees!
    Last edited by Jock Scot; 18th April 25 at 02:43 AM.
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    This thread has been flagged to the Moderators for, in the words of the person flagging the post, -" I come to XMarks to read about kilts, not someone's political outlook."

    It has been one of this forum's Guiding Principles since its beginnings that this is a forum for discussion about the narrow topic of the Kilt. So much so that Rule #5 states -


    - Discussions on the topics of religion and politics most often result in conflict between members. Posts which quote historical facts or historical events are acceptable. Discussions of the rightness or wrongness of, espousing one over another, perceptions of, or personal belief in, a religion or political system are not acceptable. Quite simply, check your religion and politics at the door before entering.

    In view of Rule #5 and until the other Moderators have had a chance to review this issue and reach a consensus - This thread is closed.
    Last edited by Steve Ashton; 23rd April 25 at 06:15 PM.
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