Kilt Do's and Don'ts

**Jock Scot** · 27th September 08, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by DWFII

I didn't know that about the feathers...thanks...I was trying to be a bit tongue in cheek, though, that's why I said it was probably "purpose shot" (staged).

Maybe it's a turkey feather?

No worries! I am only trying to be helpfull!

**ThistleDown** · 27th September 08, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by DWFII

But more importantly, for all the reasons given above, I don't think that this kind of "tradition" can spring up on foreign soil, so to speak. Again, there are no cultural antecedents and because of that it seems (to me at least) a little arrogant for those with tenuous (at best) connections to the "founding principles" to be trying to "teach their old granny to suck eggs."

This has been a superb exchange and we are finally getting to the crunch, I think. If I read you correctly, we are still on the wave-length. I do have one question, however: who is "granny"?

**DWFII** · 27th September 08, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by ThistleDown

This has been a superb exchange and we are finally getting to the crunch, I think. If I read you correctly, we are still on the wave-length. I do have one question, however: who is "granny"?

Why the "auld sod," of course--Caledonia and Eire and...Rue Britannia

**Zardoz** · 29th September 08, 10:18 AM

I enjoyed this thread more when it was just pictures of people dressed funny, or well, as the case might be.

**ThistleDown** · 29th September 08, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by DWFII

I don't know...I don't think so. Part and parcel of tradition...and I guess you have to decide on a personal level whether to give it due deference or not...are the founding principles and the cultural context that beget tradition. And/or...whether there is a cultural context in the first place.

...T-shirts may be a fashion that has a long tenure...it remains to be seen...but, in general, T-shirts by themselves have no significance to anyone , and certainly not on a culture-wide level (some wear Nike , some wear Coke)--they are a cultural phenomenon but I doubt they are or ever will be a tradition associated with kilts.

But more importantly, for all the reasons given above, I don't think that this kind of "tradition" can spring up on foreign soil, so to speak. Again, there are no cultural antecedents and because of that it seems (to me at least) a little arrogant for those with tenuous (at best) connections to the "founding principles" to be trying to "teach their old granny to suck eggs."

And there we have it, boys and girls. "Tradition is a body of long-established customs and beliefs viewed as a set of precedents" and "Fashion is the prevailing style (as in dress) during a particular time and place."

The tradition is that of the Scottish Highlands translated to Scottish National Dress. As such, the tradition is only that of Scotland. The fashion of today can only be viewed within the culture: that is, Highland dress as worn today in the "new world" is not as Scottish National Dress is today worn in Scotland (that's where "granny" lives).

So where was this photo taken and is there any need to critique what he is wearing within the fashion of that place? Or is he just mixing two cultures?

**ChattanCat** · 29th September 08, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by ThistleDown

So where was this photo taken and is there any need to critique what he is wearing within the fashion of that place? Or is he just mixing two cultures?

Ooo...Ooo... leme.. leme... NOT a kilt jacket. Jeans and a kilt

PS. Please stay on topic.

**Bob C** · 1st October 08, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by ThistleDown

So where was this photo taken and is there any need to critique what he is wearing within the fashion of that place? Or is he just mixing two cultures?

Looks to me like he's trying on the merchandise. Perfectly acceptable behavior in a kilt shop.

I'd have taken off my jacket, though.

**Standard** · 1st October 08, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bob C.

Looks to me like he's trying on the merchandise. Perfectly acceptable behavior in a kilt shop.

That was my first thought also. Sure does look like he is in a kilt shop.

**ender103601** · 2nd October 08, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bob C.

Looks to me like he's trying on the merchandise. Perfectly acceptable behavior in a kilt shop.

I'd have taken off my jacket, though.

when i'm kilted i go regemental so if i'm going to a shop to get a kilt i'm gonna be wearing pants or shorts.

**sathor** · 3rd October 08, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by ender103601

when i'm kilted i go regemental so if i'm going to a shop to get a kilt i'm gonna be wearing pants or shorts.

I think I would agree with that, except the kilt I have is so light weight that it doesn't take much for it to fly around. I'm thinking a wool wouldn't do that, but since mine isn't wool...