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11th August 05, 12:36 AM
#21
As a Brit I'm impervious to-nay ignorant of your various state/regional differences: so will come back to the original point.
Firstly it is a fact that such a garment as the kilt will entail a certain risk factor: and everyone accepts that accidents will happen.
However there is something else, the kilt is the garb of a gentleman: and it is therefore incumbent upon the wearer to take every possible precaution so as not to give offence to others: be that in how they sit-wear or not wear underwear, and even the activities they engage upon whilst wearing the kilt.
To put this at it's bluntest-you'd not want your wife or mother to be subjected to the indignity of seeing my private parts-thanks to my lack of consideration. Well that is something which applies in respect of all ladies, regardless of their age or whatever.
So it is up to us as kilt wearers to behave with all reasonable decorum.
Sorry if the above appears uncompromising, possibly inhibiting to those who have only recently adopted the kilt. However it is the attitude taken by those like myself who have been wearing the kilt since childhood as a part of our proud heritage: for it is what we were taught by our parents, and it follows the example set by our peers-clan chiefs-elders and the like.
For to us the kilt is not just a sensible way of dressing, it links to something far deeper within our very being.
James
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11th August 05, 09:30 AM
#22
 Originally Posted by James
As a Brit I'm impervious to-nay ignorant of your various state/regional differences: so will come back to the original point.
Firstly it is a fact that such a garment as the kilt will entail a certain risk factor: and everyone accepts that accidents will happen.
However there is something else, the kilt is the garb of a gentleman: and it is therefore incumbent upon the wearer to take every possible precaution so as not to give offence to others: be that in how they sit-wear or not wear underwear, and even the activities they engage upon whilst wearing the kilt.
To put this at it's bluntest-you'd not want your wife or mother to be subjected to the indignity of seeing my private parts-thanks to my lack of consideration. Well that is something which applies in respect of all ladies, regardless of their age or whatever.
So it is up to us as kilt wearers to behave with all reasonable decorum.
Sorry if the above appears uncompromising, possibly inhibiting to those who have only recently adopted the kilt. However it is the attitude taken by those like myself who have been wearing the kilt since childhood as a part of our proud heritage: for it is what we were taught by our parents, and it follows the example set by our peers-clan chiefs-elders and the like.
For to us the kilt is not just a sensible way of dressing, it links to something far deeper within our very being.
James
very well put.
I want to add another comment but I'm not sure how to put it. I said in another thread: if one doesn't purpose to prevent an accident, then the accident was on purpose. I get the impression from a few, not a large number, that this is a reason to wear a kilt. Or that a kilt gives one permission to act this way. A certain kiltmaker's website really turned me off his product because it seemed to promote the idea of flashing and that it would be easier in his kilt. There's a line here we should not be crossing and it is best expressed in James' re-interpretation of the Golden Rule in his third sentence.
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11th August 05, 02:29 PM
#23
Thank you, James,
For reminding us that kilts are intended to be, in these days and times (if not in numerous others), the dress of gentlemen.
Most of those in pipe bands, whether lady or gentleman members of such, will also agree.
There is the element of those who wish to somehow explore their "flasher" side while clad in a kilt. If that is the case, I would advise all of that "group" to: a) either know their target audience VERY well, and realize that the intent to offend may well be met with humor (ridicule, as per the late David Niven's comment when the Academy Awards were "streaked" back in the 1970's), shock or some other response, or b) resort rather to the wearing of trench coat and pant legs, in the manner of those persons with an identifiable pathology whose main aim is effrontery of others.
One piece of advice. When tying one's shoes while kilted, take a knee while facing a wall or other obstruction. One's aprons and pleats will quite adequately cover your "business," regardless of state of "under-dress" and facing away from others will most likely be perceived as reasonably good manners.
All the Best,
Mac
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11th August 05, 03:05 PM
#24
California is a different kind of place. In San Francisco, we have a public running "race" called "Bay to Breakers" - more like a roving party, actually, where many of the participants run butt naked.
In Berkeley, there was a naked guy, known as "Naked Guy" who attended all of his classes at University of California, Berkeley butt naked. Like a good nudist, he carried a towel with him to cover any seat he sat his naked butt on.
Years ago, I was working as a security guard at an office building in downtown San Francisco. It was about 1:00am. A totally naked guy strolled down the street past our lobby window. A few minutes later, he strolled back. A passing police cruiser stopped. They chatted with him for a few minutes. Then they drove off.
In California, a brief flash of flesh under a windblown kilt is probably not an issue.
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12th August 05, 06:47 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by MacConnachie
the intent to offend may well be met with humor (ridicule, as per the late David Niven's comment when the Academy Awards were "streaked" back in the 1970's),
"Ladies and gentleman, that was bound to happen. Just think, the only laugh that man will probably ever get is for stripping down and showing off his shortcomings."
I had to go look it up, it's been years since I heard it.
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