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1st March 06, 01:56 PM
#21
Remember, the WOOL in your Scotland/Canada/USA sewn kilt was most likely shorn from sheep grazing some where in Asia as well.
G Koch
Bachelor Farmer
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1st March 06, 05:41 PM
#22
It all boils down to a personal choice. Some people will go for the cheaper stuff, which will probably deteriorate faster and will not look as good as the more expensive product, wether it is kilts or Walmart products. I personally prefer to pay a little extra for a better looking kilt ($30-$40) made out of better material that will hold up longer, and in the meantime support those who I can relate to in some way, shape, or form. Again, its just a personal preference... but we know who is gonna look better walking around.-wink-
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1st March 06, 09:58 PM
#23
Caledonian Kilts on ebay...Scottish construction, several tartans, well made (they tend to run a bit small) wool/polyester blend, and look at the price.
A valid competitor.
http://stores.ebay.ie/caledonian-kilts
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2nd March 06, 06:19 AM
#24
I'm not knocking the price and I'm not trying to start an argument (at least it wasn't my intention). It's interesting to hear the different points of view and what people are and are not willing to compromise on. It actually helps me as a retailer to know what customers are thinking!
 Originally Posted by g koch
Remember, the WOOL in your Scotland/Canada/USA sewn kilt was most likely shorn from sheep grazing some where in Asia as well.
Again... not trying to pick a fight, but have you ever BEEN to Scotland? Have you SEEN the number of sheep?! Kelly and I went a month ago and were FLOORED by how many sheep and how much wool there is. Outside of cities, there is nothing but fields and sheep and that's the main source of the economy.
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2nd March 06, 07:02 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by RockyR
I'm not knocking the price and I'm not trying to start an argument (at least it wasn't my intention). It's interesting to hear the different points of view and what people are and are not willing to compromise on.  It actually helps me as a retailer to know what customers are thinking!
Again... not trying to pick a fight, but have you ever BEEN to Scotland? Have you SEEN the number of sheep?! Kelly and I went a month ago and were FLOORED by how many sheep and how much wool there is. Outside of cities, there is nothing but fields and sheep and that's the main source of the economy.
Where do you find your polyvis sheep? Don't misunderstand, I own one of your semi traditional polyvis kilts and I love it. I also know you now make wool kilts. I just haven't gotten the money together to buy one as of yet. I'm just pointing out that not even all of your excellent kilts are made from Scottish wool.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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2nd March 06, 09:03 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by RockyR
... have you ever BEEN to Scotland? Have you SEEN the number of sheep?! Kelly and I went a month ago and were FLOORED by how many sheep and how much wool there is. Outside of cities, there is nothing but fields and sheep ....
And very happy men in kilts right behind them...
yes its a long way to make a bad joke but somebody has to add a little (and yes you can stress the word LITTLE) levity here!!!
Last edited by UmAnOnion; 2nd March 06 at 09:09 AM.
ITS A KILT, G** D*** IT!
WARNING: I RUN WITH SCISSORS
“I asked Mom if I was a gifted child… she said they certainly wouldn’t have paid for me."
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2nd March 06, 09:11 AM
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Ya know, I started this thread with a customer's question.
Kilts, even SWKs and SportKilts and eBay kilts are a LOT more expensive than the Dockers and jeans I wore before.
I think that expense demands of myself that I be thorough and cautious in my purchasing - even though I always haven't been.
At these prices I demand value. For me that's quality goods crafted by someone I trust will sew my kilt to my measurements and whatever options they offer.
Many of the kilts I own were sewn up by the people I "designed" them with. Rocky and Kelly at USAKilts, Jeff at Pittsburgh Kilts, Steve at Freedom Kilts, Kathy Lare at Kathy's Kilts, and Robert at RKilts.
For this ol' backwoods bumpkin that's kinda like getting a Hong Kong suit custom made. My kilts didn't come off a shelf at the mall.
The rest of my kilts came from folks I've come to trust that will take their size range and features and find a kilt that meets my request or have it made up.
Mike at AmeriKilts was happy to make up another "sporran" so I could mix and match colors. James and Seamus at SportKilt will now sew down pleats, add belt loops, and chop to my body's length when I'm willling to pay for it. Uncle Otto at Utilikilts will also chop to my body's length when I'm willing to pay for it.
I lucked out finding my weathered Gordon at Celtic Croft, but if that's what I'd wanted sewn up Joseph and Lorie would have had it done for me to my body size.
Sure, I've been exasperated over some incredibly long waits for various reasons, but with the jonesing aside, I've been happy with the quality and service, and value received from these kiltmakers and kilt companies.
I still have yet to find a reason to buy a kilt from any of the kilt companies that offer me kilts that are "inexpensive" and come in a size that is different than what will fit my body.
I'm still not ready to buy a kilt that doesn't fit me, then take it somewhere local (fat chance here in the boonies) and have it altered.
And back to the original post, those "unadjustable" and inexpensive kilts all seem to be the Pakistani ones.
What is curious to me is that I've bought three replica War 2 battlejackets from Jerry at What Price Glory. The jackets are all made in Pakistan. They are available in a wide range of sizes and variations within the size, to fit the bodies of folks who order them. Wondering how Jerry can have those jackets sewn up, not just in a 42, but in a 42 tall and a 42 "fat" while the Pakistani sewn kilts are still one length.
I'm guessing reduced inventory for the vendors.
Ron
Last edited by Riverkilt; 2nd March 06 at 09:37 AM.
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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2nd March 06, 11:21 AM
#28
 Originally Posted by JerMc
Where do you find your polyvis sheep? Don't misunderstand, I own one of your semi traditional polyvis kilts and I love it. I also know you now make wool kilts. I just haven't gotten the money together to buy one as of yet. I'm just pointing out that not even all of your excellent kilts are made from Scottish wool.
PV Sheep?! That would be a site... a tree on his back and a chemistry beaker in his hand (viscose is made from tree fibers and Poly is man made). HAHAHAHA MOST of our kilts aren't wool... that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to the fact that the wool we DO get (and even the PV) is from the UK, not China. Marton Mills makes our PV. They're in the UK (their mill is in West Yorkshire). Hope this clears it up... sorry for the misunderstanding.
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2nd March 06, 12:12 PM
#29
 Originally Posted by RockyR
I was referring to the fact that the wool we DO get (and even the PV) is from the UK, not China.
what's wrong with Chinese wool?
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2nd March 06, 09:29 PM
#30
 Originally Posted by Alan H
Caledonian Kilts on ebay...Scottish construction, several tartans, well made (they tend to run a bit small) wool/polyester blend, and look at the price.
A valid competitor.
http://stores.ebay.ie/caledonian-kilts
Nice stuff, too many Campbells for my taste.
CT - censored of humour
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