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20th January 08, 10:48 PM
#21
I just came across this thread, and note that it has been a year since this gentleman has posted on here. Is anybody who signed up for his newsletter actually getting anything? I'm wondering how legit it might be.
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20th January 08, 11:39 PM
#22
Thanks 'Galician' for bringing this to my attention! 
I've been a high school youth leader at my church for about 5 yrs now. Technically our church views us as youth "pastors".
I also work in out reach with the 1%er outlaw biker crowd (use to be a patchholder myself).
Currently don't wear a kilt to my (high school) ministry, but plan to do so once in a while once I receive my newly ordered kilt.
About three years ago our local games reinstituted the kirkin o' the tartans on Sunday morning. Its one of my favorite parts of the games!
When I was without a kilt (heaven forbid! ) my daughter & I would attend as our ancestors of old, holding a swatch of our clan tartan in our hand.
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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21st January 08, 04:33 AM
#23
kirkin myths...
About three years ago our local games reinstituted the kirkin o' the tartans on Sunday morning. Its one of my favorite parts of the games!
When I was without a kilt (heaven forbid! ) my daughter & I would attend as our ancestors of old, holding a swatch of our clan tartan in our hand.
There are a lot of myths associated with the Kirkin' service:
http://scottishtartans.org/kirkin.htm
Regards,
Todd
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21st January 08, 06:14 AM
#24
 Originally Posted by Galician
I just came across this thread, and note that it has been a year since this gentleman has posted on here. Is anybody who signed up for his newsletter actually getting anything? I'm wondering how legit it might be.
Nope, never received anything from him. Oh well, I don't even use the email address I gave him any more.
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21st January 08, 08:47 PM
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Wow! What a great idea! I'm in! Wiccan/Neo Druid minister here. My friends call me the Rev. Nutjob.
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22nd January 08, 04:11 AM
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Last edited by BoldHighlander; 22nd January 08 at 04:25 AM.
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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22nd January 08, 04:41 AM
#27
 Originally Posted by BoldHighlander
That could be... I had read somewhere (more than once - wish I could cite sources...sorry  ) that during the Proscription some individuals would hold a swatch of tartan in their pocket while receiving a blessing (don't recall that it had anything to do with tartans specifically or not)....
I've never found any reliable source for that story, as I mentioned in the article. I've heard it time & time again, but no reliable primary source that supports it. There's no doubt that Marshall came up with the service; where the legend came from, I doubt we'll ever know.
Thanks for the link, I'm going to pass this along to my friend Rev Ro who conducts our kirkin', I think he'll find it of interest. Irregardless its still one of my favorite aspects of our local games  & even if its just a legend, its still a nice tradition & memory for my daughter and myself
Our local Kirkin' doesn't even mention the legend; instead we focus on Rev. Marshall's efforts to aid War Relief during WWII. I think the real story is even better than the legend.
Let me just say I'm not knocking any other group that uses the Kirkin' legend in their service; different horses for courses and all that.
Regards,
Todd
Last edited by macwilkin; 22nd January 08 at 04:47 AM.
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22nd January 08, 08:53 AM
#28
In our Presbyterian church, we ask each family to bring a piece of their family tartan, a scarf or a tie to place on the communion table at mid service. the tartans are blessed at that time. This allows those who are not in full highland dress to participate and become a part of the Kirk'n service. Not all churches do this. We also pass out small tartan lapel ribbons to anyone who may not have a tartan.
The Kirk'n is an American custom, most Scots are not familiar with the Kirk'n. The service is to celebrate and remember the heritage and evolution of the Presbyterian Church in this country from the Church of Scotland.
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22nd January 08, 10:22 PM
#29
 Originally Posted by Cawdorian
In our Presbyterian church, we ask each family to bring a piece of their family tartan, a scarf or a tie to place on the communion table at mid service. the tartans are blessed at that time. This allows those who are not in full highland dress to participate and become a part of the Kirk'n service. Not all churches do this. We also pass out small tartan lapel ribbons to anyone who may not have a tartan.
The Kirk'n is an American custom, most Scots are not familiar with the Kirk'n. The service is to celebrate and remember the heritage and evolution of the Presbyterian Church in this country from the Church of Scotland.
I've been giving some thought to this. I've been asked by a friend perform a blessing on his scarf. I don't really know much of anything about tartan kirk'n. I was thinking of writing a pagan kirk'n ceremony. Can you point me in the direction of maybe an out of the ceremony online for me to adapt? Yes, I'm lazy.
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23rd January 08, 04:00 AM
#30
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
There's no doubt that Marshall came up with the service; where the legend came from, I doubt we'll ever know.
Indeed, I agree
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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