historical kilt wearing question...

[tashaar]

I will check out some Welsh tartans for my hubby. It's a little too late for Christmas, but I can still do his birthday.


Now, I have another question. I was wondering about wearing a scarf with a dress kilt outfit. I've seen it two ways, one across the body (not so much with the formal dress outfit) and one where it is attached to the shoulder.

When it is simply attached to the shoulder, what is it called? I've been looking for that picture again and I cannot find it anywhere on the Web.
--Ann (tashaar)

[Ruanaidh]

I will check out some Welsh tartans for my hubby. It's a little too late for Christmas, but I can still do his birthday.


Now, I have another question. I was wondering about wearing a scarf with a dress kilt outfit. I've seen it two ways, one across the body (not so much with the formal dress outfit) and one where it is attached to the shoulder.

When it is simply attached to the shoulder, what is it called? I've been looking for that picture again and I cannot find it anywhere on the Web.
--Ann (tashaar)

You mean something like this? If you click on the Kilt Store logo on the top of this page you'll get a 10% discount on most merchandise.

[PiobBear]

A scarf, preferably cashmere, should be wrapped around the neck. A plaid is worn several ways. The fly plaid is worn at the left shoulder; it's a modern adaptation, and wouldn't be "period" for your character (but of course would be for your husband). A day plaid is folded and carried over the shoulder, but wouldn't be worn for evening wear. A full plaid is carefully pleated, wrapped around the body, and fastened at the left shoulder with a brooch; they're virtually impossible to don without the assistance of an experienced ghillie (a Highlander's valet).
Of course, if he was wearing a great kilt, most of the surplus cloth would be brought up behind him and fixed to the left shoulder with a brooch, but that's not separate from his kilt.

Ladies often wear a tartan sash across the body, kind of like a very long scarf. A modern adaptation is a much shorter one over the shoulder, with the end stitched into a rosette.

[ozone]

Speaking of Sashes,

The sash I got for my wife stubbornly refuses to form a rosette...even with use of rubber bands placed oh-so-strategically. The wool from the welsh tartan center certainly seems to be the same high quality as any scottish wools I have seen and felt; although it feels a little "slick" compared with my wife's Stewart sash wool. Anyway, anyone have ideas for making a rosette in the sash or some good weblinks in that regard? I dont want to have to sew the rosette together if that can be avoided.

[tashaar]

I've tried to post this question twice, and it's taken neither time. I wonder what's going on.

Okay, here's to hoping third time's the charm.

I have been doing research on Watson tartans. I've found three. One was invented in the 1950s, so I've eliminated that one. I'm wondering which one of these two would have been worn in 1902.

Anyone got an idea?

There's this one:
http://www.scotlandshop.net/designer...ienttartan.php

And there's this one:
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=4041
--Ann (tashaar)

[Mike1]

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[macwilkin]

I have been doing research on Watson tartans. I've found three. One was invented in the 1950s, so I've eliminated that one. I'm wondering which one of these two would have been worn in 1902.

Anyone got an idea?

There's this one:
http://www.scotlandshop.net/designer...ienttartan.php

And there's this one:
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=4041
--Ann (tashaar)

Ann,

The "Tartan Ferret" at the Tartans Authority web site only lists one Watson tartan (in their register, anyway), and it was designed in 1932, according to their records.

There is a good possibilty that there wasn't a Watson tartan in 1902; however, the surname is traditionally associated with the Buchanans, the Forbes and the Galloway District in Scotland.

Regards,

Todd

[M. A. C. Newsome]

And the Galoway tartan was not designed until the 1930s, either. I'd say a Watson in the early 1900s would be more likely to wear the Buchanan, possibly Forbes.

Remember also that at that time there were no such thing as 'ancient' or 'weathered' colors. What would have been worn would have been the standard tartan colors, which we today call 'modern.'

Aye,
Matt

[cavscout]

AWESOME! How's that for great information. I love this place!

[tashaar]

Yes, excellent. I just want to make sure that I give an accurate description of the proper tartan.

Thanks!
--Ann