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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom View Post
    Your still missing the point!!!!
    Tom, the point is far more subtle than that.

    We choose moderators, based on a couple of criteria. First, we are looking for individuals that we feel sincerely care for the future health of this forum. Second, we are looking for ways to spread our staff out, geographically. None of us are super-human, we all have lives (believe it or not) and we have jobs and these things do not permit us to be online 24/7/365. However, we don't want a moderating staff that are all online from 7:00 AM - 9:30 AM, Zulu -0500, because that leaves the forum uncovered, the other 21.5 hours each day. Freelander is on quite early in the morning, as far as I am concerned. And from my perspective, Colin sleeps waaay too late in the morning. I am 5 hours behind you and Colin is another 3 hours behind me, so we are doing a fairly good job of covering the forum for as many hours a day as we are able.

    As a native born Scot I have a different cultural background from Freelander and yourself eg: educationally, politically, socially ( our Legal system, Education system Social welfare system, Health system and Political administration are all unique and an integral part of Scotlands ethos!!
    I won't argue that point. Politically, Scotland is different from Norway, Canada, the U.S., etc. However, politics are a forbidden topic on this kilt forum. Else you would see me making far more comments about your First Miniature. I removed my own signature, Saor Alba, because I felt that it was making an possibly inappropriate, political comment.

    While I personally enjoy learning and discussing Scotland's educational, political and social issues, we cannot lose sight of the fact that this is not a forum to discuss those issues. This is a kilt forum.

    Are you going to take part in the Independence First March and Rally, coming up in March? Oh, wait, that's political. What are your thoughts on the recent surge of SNP support in Scotland? Oh, wait, that is political. Is Labour finally going to lose its hold on the Central Belt? Oh, wait, that is political. Are you taking part in any of the anti-pylon rallies, to protest pylons being built in historic areas? Oh, wait, that's getting close to being political. What are your views on your council taxes? Oh, wait, that is political.

    You see, most of the issues you mentioned above are topics that we have specifically decided were inappropriate for this forum.

    How about that new kilt you recently had made? How is it fitting and looking? (See, I knew I could find something for us to discuss )

    Will you be going to Balquhidder the day, to commemorate Robert MacGregor's life? (There's another safe topic.)

    So, you see, there's no hidden or subversive reason for not having a moderator in Alba. If/when an appropriate Scots candidate appears, then we will likely see a change in our staff.

    You also said " I am more than happy to add a Canadian perspective. The moderator team is quite diverse in our ideas and thoughts, " Its ok for a Canadian perspective to be voiced in the Moderating team but for some reason there's a lack of diversity??
    Here again, you are missing a finer point. Tom, the staff rarely gets time to discuss diverse issues. We're too busy trying to keep this forum on the straight and narrow. Which, on most days, is akin to herding cats.

    Some of us here in Scotland don't always have the romanticised view of the Country we live in, but we still love it and are fiercely proud of it history, culture, traditons and people!!
    In that instance, you and I have much in common. But what does that have to do with a fellow living in the US with no Scots ancestry and a deep desire to wear kilts?

    There are forums established for the purposes you've named above. Join in some of the political discussions that we've had on CLS. Maitland, David Turner and I had some rather lively political discussions going on, over there. Many of the members there are deeply interested in hearing Scottish perspective on all issues, whereas many of the members here are interested in wearing a kilt.

    I know of no Scot who would describe themselves as having a European outlook on anything??
    Hmmm, not even the Big Fish and his party's desire for independence in Europe? Ooops, wait, that's political.

    On all my legal documents: Passport, Driving license, Firearms certificate etc: my Country of Origin/ Place of Birth, is Scotland!! with the term UK Citizen in brackets I'm neither European or British
    Guid oan ye! An' th' bank noots in yer poakit? Aw RBoS notes, nae doot?? (Just taking the pish out of you a bit )

    Tom, we have members of the forum that live in that wee country to your immediate south and they may (or may not) feel they ARE British, so even your comments above could be taken as being divisive. The purpose and intent of this forum is to bring lovers of the kilt together, no matter where they stay and no matter what their passport says.

    If a suitable candidate for our forum staff comes along from Glaschu, Inbhir Nis, Pàislig, Gleann Comhan, Steòrnabhagh, Earra-Ghàidheal, Sruighlea, etc., then we'll have a Scots staff member. Until then, we're going to muddle along as we are.

    And that will, hopefully, put this one to rest.

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    Yeah, but to throw someone on the mod team just because they live and/or where born in Scotland and not because they'll make a good moderator and/or we need another moderator is going to cause the same sorts of problems affirmative action caused here in the US... and there's no sense going there...

    I feel the mod team here does a pretty good job, and I'm a firm believer in the adage that if it ain't broke, we don't need to be fixin' it...

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    Just my opinion, but what does it matter as long as the mods are doing a good job?
    I think they are, no matter where they come from.
    Whether or not a Scot is on the Mod Squad is irrelevant to whether this site functions well, with civility and comraderie.

    This site is a nice place to be. So much so that I spend most of my internet time here. For me that's proof that the mods are doing their job.
    I think your point IS well understood. It's just not that big of a deal to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    Yeah, but to throw someone on the mod team just because they live and/or where born in Scotland and not because they'll make a good moderator and/or we need another moderator is going to cause the same sorts of problems affirmative action caused here in the US... and there's no sense going there...

    I feel the mod team here does a pretty good job, and I'm a firm believer in the adage that if it ain't broke, we don't need to be fixin' it...
    Again!!!!! subtle difference's I did'nt say the Mod's were'nt doing a good job?? or anyone should be made a mod because of where they live?? or that they would make a good Mod, because of where the live??? I expressed the opinion "What I find weird is a site with the emphasis on wearing the kilt and and an undoubted love for Scotland and all things Scottish!! Has no Scottish/Scot's moderator's I also don't understand the phrase "and/or we need another moderator is going to cause the same sorts of problems affirmative action caused here in the US... and there's no sense going there...

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    I didn't miss the point of your thread Tom, I simply wanted to address one portion of it. You stated in your post:
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    it then follow's logically that post's are deleted/locked from an American Scot's perspective [
    I was simply pointing out that there were other percspectives than the American/Scot which you claimed. I was not saying that the perspectives that we have currently are equal or even similar to that of a native Scots, but as you point out yourself there is diversity in education, politics, life experience, etc based on locations. It is that diversity that makes the exchanges on this board so interesting to me. I love that I can read posts from all over Canada, the US, the UK, Europe, and Asia that share a common interest. For me it's the members of the forum which bring the diversity, fun, and tone to the forum, we just try to keep it civil based on the rules the owner of the forum set up.

    As for a Scottish moderator, I agree with Captain that picking a moderator simply based on their location is silly. Maybe Hank will go that route in the future (picking someone from Scotland), I don't know as it is not my decision.

    Back to your original question, you'll notice that the Glasgow teen thread has been fixed up (thanks Mike) and returned to the General Kilt Forum.
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    Maybe if we all met up at Ferintosh for a dram or two we'd understand each other better! (And if not, well we'd doubtless have a cracking good time anyway.)

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    Maybe if we all met up at Ferintosh for a dram or two we'd understand each other better
    I no longer drink alcohol but I'd certainly be up for meeting a lot more x-markers during 2007.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cessna152towser View Post
    I no longer drink alcohol but I'd certainly be up for meeting a lot more x-markers during 2007.
    A nice hot ginger beer with a twist of lime really satisfies on those nights when you're not drinking. Well, cold ginger beer, over ice, but hot! ginger.

    Or if you are in a low class dive, cheap barely gingery ginger ale will do with some lime. Still tastes pretty good.
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