Rethinking the Black Watch Tartan

[Oldhiker]

I agree let's keep our jabs in the humorous arena. In the case of my Lamont Clan, the Campbells are like the kid in school who the teacher saw hitting the boy who just hit him. The teacher did not see the first blow

The Lamont's had many less publicized "incidents" against their neighbors the Campbells. they lived next to each other for hundreds of years and intermarried a lot... what better cause of arguments

I swear I have no idea how those Campbell sheep wandered onto our Lamont land and fell into the bar b que pit?
mighty tasty

The Lamont modern tartan looks almost like the Black Watch.

[Sheep In Wolf's Clothing]

Don't buy the Black Watch tartan Ron, take it off of your possibility list. Your Grandfather's hatred and prejudice is still your own. The Black Watch tartan means so much to so many, it's been worn proudly by tens of thousands in numerous wars for so long. It's been worn by those who've died in those wars in the name of freedom. Instead of wearing it to honour those (Macdonalds included) you have, for the past sixty years chosen to ignore it for spite of something that happend over 300 years ago. I find this failing to let go of the acient past mind boggling, Ron you drive a Ford Escape which is a Ford/Mazda platform. An American/Japanese partnership. How easy it is to move on from the unjustified slaughter that happened Dec 7th 1941. Why is it that acts of aggression by one nation against another is accepted whereas the those of a small group of people can never be forgiven? Ron I've always regarded you as an intelligent and inidividual individual but I don't think you're truly ready to move ahead yet. You put great effort in selecting your tartans and you do so to show your respect to an ancestor. Share that same respect with this tartan.

Says the English guy.....

At my best friends wedding, the Father of the groom (A MacKay) and the Father of the Bride (A Sutherland), decided to settle an old Clan feud. After the ceremony they both were presented with claymores. They picked them up, aimed them at each other, much to the shock of the guests,....and just when they thought it might get out of hand, a waiter came over and presented two drams. They toasted the new couple and put the feud to a final rest. It was neat and something I will always remember. (I was honoured to be the "best man" and it was the first time I was ever kilted. As "best man" I had to take the garter off of the maid of honour.. the brides brother! It was a very fun wedding!)

(Things you will do for your two best friends on their big day)

Grudges, now so far removed from the original transgression, can be fun! Order the kilt Ron, it will look great on you!
Sara
who added her favourite kilted picture.. sorry that my back is to the camera

[thescot]

I remember the clan chief of a clan I don't remember at the Stone Mountain Games several years ago telling us how his heart was warmed to see the peaceful games. He said, "We try to have games in Scotland, but then the Campbells show up and a fight breaks out."

It was all in good fun, and everyone laughed. I was also raised with certain prejudices, mostly against folks from other parts of the country. However, i got past it.

I would proudly wear the Black Watch tartan any time. It's a very nice tartan, and a tank in that pattern is lovely.

Forget it all. Your grandfather--like my forebears--are all dead and things have changed. I don't dishonor my great-great-grandafather by not saying "damn yankees" anymore than I dishonor him by attending a Catholic mass. (he was the son of an Ulster Scot.) Times move on.

[Riverkilt]

Hey George,

Would you believe that another neighbor that signed off to reccomend my 4 great grandfather was a John Lamont?

And Grant...I did work for Campbell Ford and I do buy Campbell Soup....and....my middle name is Grant.....

Ron

[sharpdressedscot]

Grant??!!


Well, I found out today that from my grandmother's side I'm a Campbell and on my dad's side I'm a MacDonald....

[Nick the DSM]

wierd things happen in moments.

[Oldhiker]

Hey George,

Would you believe that another neighbor that signed off to reccomend my 4 great grandfather was a John Lamont?

Ron

Lamonts get around, not many left in Scotland after the clearances.

[Ryan Ross]

I went to a private school for 8th-12th grade. Every day of my life, for those five years, all the girls I ever saw were wearing skirts in the Black Watch. Ever since that time, the BW tartan hasn't looked quite right for a kilt, in my eyes. I know it's ridiculous, but I've not yet been able to forget all those hundreds of box pleated skirts.




...which is why I've always found this a disturbing picture of myself.



...this kilt was a rental, for use between the time that I lost too much weight to fit into my kilts, and when I finally got around to having them altered/rebuilt.

...and to keep with the actual topic of this thread: go ahead and pick up a Black Watch. What the heck, right?

[Jack Daw]

Lamonts get around, not many left in Scotland after the clearances.

I have a Scottish Turner in my ancestry, which makes me a you-know-what.

[ThreadBbdr]

Lamonts get around, not many left in Scotland after the clearances.

Yep, my grandmother's (paternal) family has been here in the states since 1790ish. The name was even Anglicized to "Lemon".

None of my Scots connections are recent, but they are all the more precious for that.