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27th June 08, 08:11 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by sirdaniel1975
Many clans and families have some degree of Norman blood in them. That goes for several other ethnic backgrounds as well; Norse, Anglo, Saxon, etc.. This is obviously to some limiting degree, which would explain the more predominant Celtic bloodline. Some historians have described Scotland as a melting pot, kind of like NY city. Most of these other cultures contributed in some way to what became the Scottish Identity.
From my perspective, it's just another one of those ever prevalent reasons to be proud of your ancestry.
Very well said.
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Ive often wondered about my own family which is a mix of Cameron, Gordon and Taylor, I have very dark hair but a fire engine red beard (which is why i dont grow it), there is some Davies (maybe Davidsons) or even Welsh, Davies, Im also unusually tall for a Scot at 6.3 in saying that I have Anderson relatives which might account for some Nordic DNA giving me the height
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27th June 08, 06:19 PM
#3
I'm a mix of Irish and Scottish, mostly Irish though. My Irish side is Dempsey of County Offaly, and Simpson of County Armagh, also Wiggins from Ireland (Don't know where in Ireland though) and I have James from scotland, also aparrently some Cherokee Indian and a pinch of Dutch in there, so yeah, my blood is mostly Celtic, with a pinch of Cherokee and Dutch.
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27th June 08, 09:45 PM
#4
Plenty of Celts in Brittany. I've that Gordon/Norman blood too. Check out all the French/Celtic tartans in Ham's gallery. There are even kiltmakers in France. I didn't save the link but perhaps Ham can enlighten us.
Not to worry. Kilt on.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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27th June 08, 10:04 PM
#5
Mutt here too, Norman-Scottish-English-Welsh-German-American Indian, and proud of them all.
His Exalted Highness Duke Standard the Pertinacious of Chalmondley by St Peasoup
Member Order of the Dandelion
Per Electum - Non consanguinitam
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27th June 08, 10:31 PM
#6
Irish-Scots-Welsh-Breton-French-Amerindian
A kilted Celt on the border.
Kentoc'h mervel eget bezań saotret
Omne bellum sumi facile, ceterum ćgerrume desinere.
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28th June 08, 06:49 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Plenty of Celts in Brittany. I've that Gordon/Norman blood too. Check out all the French/Celtic tartans in Ham's gallery. There are even kiltmakers in France. I didn't save the link but perhaps Ham can enlighten us.
Not to worry. Kilt on.
Ron
yeah, like ancienne alliance.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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28th June 08, 01:44 AM
#8
I firmly believe that you are what you celebrate, regardless of blood heritage. Descendent wise I have Scottish and Native blood..( the Wagner name comes from a step dad that adopted me ) but when someone asks me about heritage I simply tell them Canadian, and then tell them that I wear kilts because I enjoy them rather then out of a feeling of historical duty.
Not trying to stir the pot here folks, just my opinion. Everyone is valid in whatever their feelings of heritage and follow there of as far as that goes.
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28th June 08, 02:21 AM
#9
Well, I like the way this thread is turning out! 
I certainly had no intention of intoning any racism, that's for sure. My only hope was that folks not become fixated on the Celtic angle on things, however prominent it might be. You all seem to have picked up on that and you celebrate all of your various backgrounds in one big melting pot, which is what I had hoped too!
As I said in my opening post, being Scots to me is as much about how I live my life as any bloodline. I particularly like to think my house is always open and hospitable and that I keep a look out for my neighbours' welfare as well. Those things mean as much to me as my Norman/Celtic ancestry.
Cheers
Bruce
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28th June 08, 06:58 AM
#10
I'm of Gaulic and Gaelic heritage, with a Norman (via Quebec) surname and a mom who was a MacDonald. Indeed, Somerled, the grandfather of the progenitor of Clan Donald, sired what would become the Donald line with a Norse wife. Consider a bit further back when Celts reigned as the superpower in Europe...prior to the might of Rome, 'The Celts' were as prevalent in Gaul (France) and most of the rest of mainland Europe as they ever were in the British Isles. They didn't move into France (Gaul), they were the native tribes of Gaul. Their linguistic and cultural grouping are what made the many and varied tribes of peoples who made up the Celts "Celtic", not their DNA. A kilt is no more 'Celtic' than Lederhosen are. BUT they are comfortable and look good.
Aracos (aka Michael Eric Bérubé)
[I]J'adore cette terre ... C'est tourjours dans ma pensee et dans mon esprit. C'est dans mon sang. [/I] /|\
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