Scotland Flag patch

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

In Scotland the RL is still personal to the Sovereign, and is different than the Royal Standard (splitting hairs here). As a matter of interest, this summer I attended three Scottish games. When the judges went around judging clan tents those displaying the RL were immediately disqualified... the comment was something like, "they should know better". Then the judges moved on to the next tent.

Scotland has only one flag-- the saltire. That's the one I'd wear.

[Carolina Kiltman]

I have seen flags, license plates, etc, with the white saltire on blue with the rampant lion in the centre. Any comments to this?

[gilmore]

I have seen flags, license plates, etc, with the white saltire on blue with the rampant lion in the centre. Any comments to this?

That's Nova Scotia, isn't it?

[macwilkin]

That's Nova Scotia, isn't it?

Nova Scotia's flag has a blue saltire on a white field.

Todd

[DTrain]

Thanks for the information. I knew that the saltire was the official flag and that the RL was only for royalty but never understood why. This thread has clarified that point well. thanks!

[Tattoo Bradley]

I have seen flags, license plates, etc, with the white saltire on blue with the rampant lion in the centre. Any comments to this?

That's Nova Scotia, isn't it?

Nova Scotia's flag has a blue saltire on a white field.

Todd

Todd's Correct:

Nova Scotia

[Cat]

The Lion Rampant itself has been a symbol of Scotland for a long time...far before the time when England declared Scotland to be part of the UK. The current Lion Rampant standard (flag) is supposed to be reserved for the Sovereign of Scotland (ie, the Queen of England) when she is in town. Technically, it's illegal in Scotland for anyone to display this flag other than the Queen's residence.

Having said that, I have many articles where MANY Scots happily display this flag in protest to England "commandeering" the Lion Rampant and as a sign of Scottish heritage (despite the risk of getting fined.) But it's the Lion Rampant that is the symbol of Scotland, not the flag design itself.

My mailbox placeholder has a Lion Rampant underneath my name (just the lion, not the flag design or any border or anything), and I am proud of it. I also have a Lion Rampant sticker on my car, although I cut off pretty much everything besides the lion itself. Just look at all the Lion Rampant kilt pins and fly-plaid brooches out there...and they all have the lion by itself, and not within the flag design.

[macwilkin]

The Lion Rampant itself has been a symbol of Scotland for a long time...far before the time when England declared Scotland to be part of the UK. The current Lion Rampant standard (flag) is supposed to be reserved for the Sovereign of Scotland (ie, the Queen of England) when she is in town. Technically, it's illegal in Scotland for anyone to display this flag other than the Queen's residence.

Having said that, I have many articles where MANY Scots happily display this flag in protest to England "commandeering" the Lion Rampant and as a sign of Scottish heritage (despite the risk of getting fined.) But it's the Lion Rampant that is the symbol of Scotland, not the flag design itself.

My mailbox placeholder has a Lion Rampant underneath my name (just the lion, not the flag design or any border or anything), and I am proud of it. I also have a Lion Rampant sticker on my car, although I cut off pretty much everything besides the lion itself. Just look at all the Lion Rampant kilt pins and fly-plaid brooches out there...and they all have the lion by itself, and not within the flag design.

I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. The LR was a symbol of the Scottish monarchs long before the Union of the Crowns in which England accepted a Scottish monarch, James VI, after the death of Elizabeth I of England.

The Lion Rampant has always been the monarch's standard since Alexander II in the 1200s, although some legends trace it to William "the Lion".

Regards,

Todd

[bowser]

The Lion Rampant itself has been a symbol of Scotland for a long time...far before the time when England declared Scotland to be part of the UK. The current Lion Rampant standard (flag) is supposed to be reserved for the Sovereign of Scotland (ie, the Queen of England) when she is in town. Technically, it's illegal in Scotland for anyone to display this flag other than the Queen's residence.

Having said that, I have many articles where MANY Scots happily display this flag in protest to England "commandeering" the Lion Rampant and as a sign of Scottish heritage (despite the risk of getting fined.) But it's the Lion Rampant that is the symbol of Scotland, not the flag design itself.

My mailbox placeholder has a Lion Rampant underneath my name (just the lion, not the flag design or any border or anything), and I am proud of it. I also have a Lion Rampant sticker on my car, although I cut off pretty much everything besides the lion itself. Just look at all the Lion Rampant kilt pins and fly-plaid brooches out there...and they all have the lion by itself, and not within the flag design.

Sorry mate but your not even close.
The rampant lion WAS the royal standard of the kings of Scotland, the three lions the standard of England, and the Harp that of Ireland. They were all amalgamated in on ONE NEW standard which has been posted elsewhere. Since the King of Scotland became and took over the crown of England, the Scots commandeered the English bit not the other way round.

It is not Illegal to wave or use ANY flag in the UK, you can fly the flag of any country you like, you can paint it on your car, you can grow your lawn in the pattern, you can use it for a floor covering or paint your walls in the picture of it, its just not against any law, it does not matter who's flag it is. THERE IS NO CHANCE or EVER being fined. The only thing you would get fined for would be for putting up the Flag pole without permission or flying the flag of a proscribed organization. There is NO offence,

That lion is used on Scottish football shirtsThe three lions on the English shirt

the same for the Irish Harp, People have stickers on their cars, motorbikes, (I have on my panniers), people have them on their vehicle Number plates they are sold everywhere, there is nothing controversial, its just a flag it really don't mean anything is just a bit of material, you can even get the national flags at toilet seats



People just don't get worked up over it, most don't know the history and even fewer care in the slightest.

[Nervous Jock]

It is not Illegal to wave or use ANY flag in the UK, you can fly the flag of any country you like, you can paint it on your car,

Are you resident in the UK? If you are I'm really surprised you don't know about all the problems there are flying the St George's cross