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20th September 10, 04:31 AM
#21
Originally Posted by Schiehallion
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Unlike a certain signal box man in Scotland who wears his kilt everyday come rain or shine! I wonder who that is???
Answers on a post card please.
What's the prize? I know the answer!!
and back on topic....
I wear the kilt as often as I can, a few times a week at least, but I'm not a full time wearer.But I'm always pleased when people wear kilts, whenever they do
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20th September 10, 06:03 AM
#22
Originally Posted by Tiny
Sorry if we offended you. I never intended to say those who only wear a kilt for celtic events weren't real kilties. May I ask why you don't wear it more often?
I understand if your talking about a high value tank as why you wouldn't break it out to mow the lawn but even a tank would be nice for a long walk in the evening or going to dinner at a nice restraunt with the wife/GF. (don't bring both wife and GF at the same time its guaranteed to ruin your tank then)
I'm not saying you must wear your kilt everyday to be a true kiltie, but why must you see your kilt as a costume not a normal garment.
Its hard to convince the general public that a kilt is a normal garment when the majority of kilties see it as a costume to be worn to celtic events and weddings only.
You didn't offend me per se; I was simply trying to offer the position of devil's advocate in this discussion.
I'm not sure I ever actually said I see my kilt as costume than a normal garment, though. You may be assuming that from my post.
I could give a fig less what the general public thinks that kilts are a "normal garment" or not. As "the Little Red God" states, I "wear the clothes I want to wear, never dreaming that people stare."
And you don't need to extol the virtures of a kilt to me -- I've been wearing a kilt since I was a lad of 18 years old. I've worn my kilts to many venues, from my own wedding to church services, and "just because I could". I just don't see the need to turn kilt-wearing into a cause -- if I did have a "cause" when I wear my kilt, it is to promote the contributions of Scottish immigrants, such as members of my own family, to our nation and around the world.
I once saw an officer of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders in an interview on the documentary Instrument of War discussing the importance of regimental "totems & talismens" to the Highland regiments of the British Army. That phrase stuck with me, and I use it frequently to describe the symbolism that Highland attire has for me.
But ultimately, it comes down to a matter of "horses for courses". If others choose to view their kilt as a garment like a pair of jeans, then I'm all for it. Full-time kilt-wearing may be fine for some, but it's just not my "cuppa". As Paul stated above, I'm happy when anyone chooses to wear a kilt, regardless of the reason.
I just feel that it's a bit of a double-standard to demand the general public accept us and then to imply that those who do not wear the kilt the way "we" do may not have the "testicular fortitude" -- just something to think about. The traditionalist community takes a bit of a beating around here over that issue, but tolerance and respect is a two-way street.
Respectfully,
Todd
Last edited by macwilkin; 20th September 10 at 06:10 AM.
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20th September 10, 06:24 AM
#23
It is the same in Scotland, a fortnight ago tomorrow, Glasgow was awash with kilties for the Scotland v Lichentstein international, the bars in central Glasgow were full before and after the match but it seems it has to take an event such as an international match to get guys kilted.
The number of guys who have a kilt in Scotland must be enormous but very few wear the kilt at any normal social event, it takes a wedding, a football match, highland games (even highland games only have a small amount of kilted spectators with the exception of Cowal where it appears to be de rigeur to wear the kilt).
If only a small fraction of kilt owners in Scotland wore their kilt say at least 10 times a year then we would have kilts being a very common sight in Scottish towns although most weekends in Glasgow you will always see a kiltie or two
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20th September 10, 09:16 PM
#24
Originally Posted by cajunscot
You didn't offend me per se; I was simply trying to offer the position of devil's advocate in this discussion.
I'm not sure I ever actually said I see my kilt as costume than a normal garment, though. You may be assuming that from my post.
I could give a fig less what the general public thinks that kilts are a "normal garment" or not. As "the Little Red God" states, I "wear the clothes I want to wear, never dreaming that people stare."
And you don't need to extol the virtures of a kilt to me -- I've been wearing a kilt since I was a lad of 18 years old. I've worn my kilts to many venues, from my own wedding to church services, and "just because I could". I just don't see the need to turn kilt-wearing into a cause -- if I did have a "cause" when I wear my kilt, it is to promote the contributions of Scottish immigrants, such as members of my own family, to our nation and around the world.
I once saw an officer of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders in an interview on the documentary Instrument of War discussing the importance of regimental "totems & talismens" to the Highland regiments of the British Army. That phrase stuck with me, and I use it frequently to describe the symbolism that Highland attire has for me.
But ultimately, it comes down to a matter of "horses for courses". If others choose to view their kilt as a garment like a pair of jeans, then I'm all for it. Full-time kilt-wearing may be fine for some, but it's just not my "cuppa". As Paul stated above, I'm happy when anyone chooses to wear a kilt, regardless of the reason.
I just feel that it's a bit of a double-standard to demand the general public accept us and then to imply that those who do not wear the kilt the way "we" do may not have the "testicular fortitude" -- just something to think about. The traditionalist community takes a bit of a beating around here over that issue, but tolerance and respect is a two-way street.
Respectfully,
Todd
Sorry my post was a bit too pointed from rereading it. By "you" I really intended to mean those who will only wear it to the highland games or other celtic event exclusivly not you as an individual. My thinking isn't that others need to wear kilts more but that it would be nice to see kilts more offten this I think we can all agree on.
With an area with so many kilt owners I just find it suprising that you never see anyone out in one. Even if everyone thought thier kilt was for more dressy occasions I don't see why we don't see a few on sundays as they head to church in thier sunday best, or heading to dinner or the theater on the weekends. (by theater I'm refering to actual theater not movies, though I wear mine to the movies as well)
By discusion in this thread I would hope we don't take away from those who only wear thier kilt once or twice a year but that we would encourage them to take it out of the closet one more time then they normaly would have.
I'd challenge everyone who wouldn't wear thier kilt this week normaly to take it out dust it off and do something in it. Even if all you do is take the dog for a walk around the block.
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21st September 10, 08:59 AM
#25
It makes sense that only a very small minority(maybe 1 in 10,000,000) would wear the kilt full-time, and that those who actually own a kilt amounts to maybe 3 in 100,000(Someone has to be buying all those UKs and SWKs). Thus, it seems like you are more likely to be victim of a crime than you are to see a kilt in public. The only thing less common than kilts in public might be religious vestments and kimonos. Naturally I am guessing with the above numbers/ratios, and making a broad generalization.
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21st September 10, 11:52 PM
#26
Originally Posted by Orthzar
It makes sense that only a very small minority(maybe 1 in 10,000,000) would wear the kilt full-time, and that those who actually own a kilt amounts to maybe 3 in 100,000(Someone has to be buying all those UKs and SWKs). Thus, it seems like you are more likely to be victim of a crime than you are to see a kilt in public. The only thing less common than kilts in public might be religious vestments and kimonos. Naturally I am guessing with the above numbers/ratios, and making a broad generalization.
I think I'm going to have to talk to one of the local irish/mexican pubs about a plaid night. maybe that will bring in a few kilties. I can see it now "Tartan Tuesdays!"
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