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19th January 11, 10:41 AM
#1
Hugh, I hope your very well reasoned letter will get through to the guy but I dunno... I remember that in the late 1980s there was an international group handing out little comic-book tracts denouncing the TV series "Bewitched," which had been off the air for at least 10 years, as dangerous and satanic. From what I could see, they spent an awful lot of money, time, and effort on that rather strange, if only because obsolete, cause.
Last edited by Lallans; 19th January 11 at 11:27 AM.
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19th January 11, 10:55 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by biblemonkey
I have been over this type of topic numerous times with so many people. I don’t wish to call him a fool as that is sinful and judgmental as well but he is indeed poorly informed and has no right to speak on this manner until he better educates himself. First of all, the writer misunderstands the kilt itself. It is MEN’S CLOTHING. There is nothing dainty, soft or effeminate about a real kilt. They are tough, thick, hearty garments that have a long tradition of being male in form and fashion so his argument that they are women’s clothing is nonsense. Second of all, he misuses those Bible verses towards his own ends. It saddens me that this type of closed minded hate is many people’s image of the church. The rest of us suffer because a scant few are overly vocal in their misunderstanding of not only Christianity but the world itself as scriptures apply to it. I wrote this man an email in response to his insulting article and have included it as follows.
Dear sir,
As a forward I would like to say that this letter is not ment to inflame, but to respond. Please take it as such and with an open and loving heart as a message from a brother in Christ. A fool despiseth his father's instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent. Proverbs 15:5
I would respectfully ask that you remove the article you posted about kilts on your site. I am a devout Christian, of Scottish heritage, and have done exhaustive research on both the Biblical applications you put forth as well as kilts themselves. I find your article to be ill informed and your reasoning to be shoddy in the extreme. Some the things that you say would be downright laughable if they were not so insulting in nature. Your words are inflammatory rather than helpful and offer up a blantant misrepresentation of not only the Biblical verses but also of the kilt and the public view of the kilt as well. Bifurcated garments are an extremly recent addition to fashion historically speaking. Kilts were designed for a mans use. Kilts as we know them today are rugged and hearty garments that predate trousers by many hundreds of years and have basis in fashions that stretched back thousands of years before that. My guess (based upon the article) is you have a personally negative view of the kilt. It seems that you are closed off to cultural or personal differences that, though the Bible does not state them as sinful unless twisted and misused, you have chosen to say are sin because you yourself do not understand or wish to tolerate those differences. I believe in the word of God as given; not as interpreted or picked at by men. I do not expect a positive response from you on this matter as I have seen some of your other posts and have seen how you typically use negativity and attack rather than an approach of loving guidance. All I can say is this, I wish you well and may God bless your search for knowledge wisdom. May He give you the discernment to tell the difference between opinion and scripture. May He grant all who are of the Body to love one another as themselves and have peace between them.
God bless,
Hugh
I sincerely hope that he will see how coarse and cruel he has been on this and many other issues and realize that law and love must work hand in hand for Christianity to exist as Christ intended.
Thanks for reading,
Hugh
Hugh, I like you! I didn't write anything to him because I'm pagan, and by that one virtue alone, not only would I not be listened to, but I would only help reinforce the guy's delusions! One small criticism that I would offer, though, is that you didn't mention that the traditional kilt is designed for a mans hip and waist structure and that women can't wear them in the manner in which they're meant to be worn because their hips are too wide and their natural waist is too low, making the kilt an exlusively masculine garment.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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19th January 11, 11:00 AM
#3
Everyone knows that Real Men Wear Kilts. The writer of that article isn't worth a second thought.
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19th January 11, 12:21 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
Hugh, I like you! I didn't write anything to him because I'm pagan, and by that one virtue alone, not only would I not be listened to, but I would only help reinforce the guy's delusions! One small criticism that I would offer, though, is that you didn't mention that the traditional kilt is designed for a mans hip and waist structure and that women can't wear them in the manner in which they're meant to be worn because their hips are too wide and their natural waist is too low, making the kilt an exlusively masculine garment.
The thing that guys like that (the anti-kilt guy) don't realize is that not everyone can be reached by "fire and brimstone". Some are but some are not. I certainly would not be willing to listen if I were not a Christian and somebody just started yelling at me. I AM a Christian and I STILL don't like it. I believe that salvation comes through Christ and him alone. I may desparately wish that others share that belief but I don't feel like I am supposed to cram it down people's throats until I have no communication with them anymore. Maybe I'm wrong and I should be a little more forcefull but my ministry to people is to lovingly serve them and make my beliefs known (kindly and with humility) so they understand why I am the way I am and how I differ from the man I once was. If they allow it to go further than that then it is their choice and I would welcome the conversation joyfully. I cannot save anyone. Hopefully I have not alienated anyone with these posts and if you wish to ask questions or dispute my beliefs then PM me and I'm fine with that. I hope that website guy gets the point.
Hugh
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21st January 11, 11:06 PM
#5
sounds like some poor exegesis
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22nd January 11, 01:12 AM
#6
Is it wrong to be drunk, kilted, and watching Leslie Nielsen? If it is, then I don't wanna be right!
Just sayin'...
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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22nd January 11, 05:25 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
kilted and watching Leslie Nielsen?
OT but... while kilted I ran into Leslie Nielsen, or rather he almost ran over me!
I was in my full piping kit at John Wayne Airport (SNA), hired to pipe as someone came off their plane from Scotland.
I was finished and striding quickly through the terminal when suddenly Leslie Nielsen zoomed up to me and stopped just in time, driving one of those cars they drive through terminals. He looked at me just about as wide-eyed as I looked at him!
Only then did I look around and discover that I had walked right into the shoot for a TV commercial.
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18th January 11, 07:02 PM
#8
i did a google on the guy lol get this... he's scottish born HA HA HA HA... he (without getting into a religious argument) seems to be picking and choosing what verses to use... what about what comes before and after the one verses he uses lol
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18th January 11, 07:06 PM
#9
Bummer!
That's just great, I finally get my kilt collection rounded out and now I have to either sell them all, or likely burn in Hell!! Well, at least wool is fire retardant!! 
I vote not psychotic, just 100% sexually insecure ignorant loon.
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21st January 11, 12:01 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by MacMillan's son
That's just great, I finally get my kilt collection rounded out and now I have to either sell them all, or likely burn in Hell!! Well, at least wool is fire retardant!!
I vote not psychotic, just 100% sexually insecure ignorant loon.
I believe you have hit the nail squarely on the head. Sounds to me like a feller who doesn't know how to cope with is sexuality. All this theory does is reinforce the notion that the kilt is a masculine garment indeed.
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