Fedora with the kilt?

[Cowher]

I would bet my next vacation on jock giving this a no.

[macwilkin]

I'm not a big fan of threads like this one. No offence meant to the OP, but these types of threads usually end up going sour.

Can someone wear a fedora with a kilt -- sure. Should you? I suppose it depends on whether you are a "traditionalist" or not when it comes to your kilt kit. If you are, and you express the opinion that a fedora is not traditional with Highland attire, you're labeled a curmudgeon and your insights should automatically be ignored.

If wearing kilts are all about "freedom", then the "freedom" should extend to those who want to wear their kilts traditionally as well.

T.

[cavscout]

Truthfully, I agree Todd, these threads eventually never serve to bring people together on style. Just looking at the responses so far, one view is flatly "No"and the other "sure, nothing stopping you". One of those seems more confrontational than the other, at least outside of the "Traditional" forum section. Please don't mistake that I'm implying the traditional section is the only place traditionalists should post, I'm not.

We don't really know which side of the pond the OP is on. In some regions maybe Scots practices are more the "norm" but if he is somewhere else the older traditions may not be as strictly held to. Are they any less proper. That goes to intent of the wearer, really the only true determiner.

I'm very conservative in my dress but I am not looking to portray a "traditional"style, though I hold to some functional practices. I'm an American of Scots descent and will choose to incorporate the Kilt into my lifestyle as I see fit. As much as it may pain some, their efforts to restrain the Kilt to only be worn a certain way by a certain brand of "gentleman" on certain occasions is futile and really only serves to drive a wedge further between the two schools of thought.

Bottom line, the Kilt is not simply a national costume. It's a garment with modern, practical, and functional significance to today's men. My choice in what and how I wear anything is based primarily on is it functional and practical.

[Bugbear]

I would bet my next vacation on jock giving this a no.

I'm not so sure about that from things Jock has posted in the past. And I was joking in my tone "demand," but it would be interesting to have his input.

That being said, I really don't have a horse in this race...

[macwilkin]

Truthfully, I agree Todd, these threads eventually never serve to bring people together on style. Just looking at the responses so far, one view is flatly "No"and the other "sure, nothing stopping you". One of those seems more confrontational than the other, at least outside of the "Traditional" forum section. Please don't mistake that I'm implying the traditional section is the only place traditionalists should post, I'm not.

We don't really know which side of the pond the OP is on. In some regions maybe Scots practices are more the "norm" but if he is somewhere else the older traditions may not be as strictly held to. Are they any less proper. That goes to intent of the wearer, really the only true determiner.

I'm very conservative in my dress but I am not looking to portray a "traditional"style, though I hold to some functional practices. I'm an American of Scots descent and will choose to incorporate the Kilt into my lifestyle as I see fit. As much as it may pain some, their efforts to restrain the Kilt to only be worn a certain way by a certain brand of "gentleman" on certain occasions is futile and really only serves to drive a wedge further between the two schools of thought.

Bottom line, the Kilt is not simply a national costume. It's a garment with modern, practical, and functional significance to today's men. My choice in what and how I wear anything is based primarily on is it functional and practical.

Well said, and point taken. While I tend to be firmly in the traditional camp, I do respect those who may not -- however, as you noted, part of the issue with this thread is that it is not in the "traditional" section of the forum, so when an "auld crabbit" says that a fedora "should not" be worn as headgear with a kilt, some folks tend to get on their ear.

It reminds me of the conundrum we faced as genealogical librarians: do we give patrons want they want (family legend) or the truth? Many times they were not one in the same.

T.

[robbiethepiper]

BRAVO. LISTEN TO YOUR OWN MUSE NOT THAT OF SOMEONE ELSE. ULTIMATELY YOU HAVE TO PLEASE THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NOT SOME CURMUDGEON ON THIS FORUM.ith:

If anyone is brave/foolish/discourteous enough to genuinely not care about others' opinion, then why post on the forum? If one merely seeks uncaring approval, then asking a large number strangers is a bad idea, for some will surely differ. Personally, I enjoy the fact that members express different views. I will defend to my last breath anyone's right to dress as he pleases, but if my opinion is asked, I will give it honestly, even if it ruffles feathers....

[Lyle1]

If anyone is brave/foolish/discourteous enough to genuinely not care about others' opinion, then why post on the forum? If one merely seeks uncaring approval, then asking a large number strangers is a bad idea, for some will surely differ. Personally, I enjoy the fact that members express different views. I will defend to my last breath anyone's right to dress as he pleases, but if my opinion is asked, I will give it honestly, even if it ruffles feathers....

I think people ask for opinions to get different points of view in order to make a more informed decision. That said, asking for an opinion does not obligate you to agreeing with the opinion or to following the advice that is offered.

If opinions are offered (and received) in a gentlemanly manner, without rancor and condemnation of differing points of view, we do not have to worry about ruffled feathers. Some people will see an offense where none is offered, but that really can not be helped.

[Cowher]

I don't understand. If someone is a traditional type of kilt wearer then their responses are taken as such. If someone is of the vein that you can wear anything as long as it makes you happy then it souls be taken as such. But I don't think it's that simple. In many ways I like the traditional look better but I don't think that flat caps look bad in fact I love flat caps with the kilt. Some cringe at the thought of it. I think someone becomes a bore when they weigh in on their side and don't accept that there is other opinions that are also correct. They spout their (non) traditionalist ideas and then crap on everyone who feels differently. The beauty of this forum is that we have historians, traditional Scots, traditional non-Scots, casual kilt wearers and a bunch of alternative kilt wearers. And we can all voice our opinions freely and the person who is new & asking these questions can learn what they like. I am open to all types of kilted wear but some people from both sides of style seem to think that their way is the only way.

[The Wizard of BC]

Of course you can wear a Fedora with a kilt.



A Traditionalist will try to tell you no. But look, there is nothing in the above picture that is traditional.
My kilt has pockets.
I'm wearing penny loafers.
No flashes, no Sgain.
My kilt pin is NW Native design.
My shirt was what I pulled out of the closet this morning.
The jacket is my old flight jacket. It was chilly today in Victoria.
It is also raining and my Akubra Fedora makes a great umbrella.

There is another voice to balance the strictly Traditional view.

It has to do with respecting the kilt. Respecting yourself. And presenting yourself in the kilt to the best of your ability.

And isn't that what this forum is all about. It is about an appreciation of the kilt.
Not the traditional kilt. Not the non-traditional kilt. Just the kilt, plain and simple.

[tripleblessed]

And that looks wonderful. In some areas of the country, though, a Stetson
is more likely than a fedora. Certainly not traditional, but often eminently
practical.