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20th May 04, 05:28 AM
#21
Are we . . .
I wear the kilt because it is my "national dress" and I am proud to be Scottish. As stated in other messages to this site, I have worn kilts since I was a child, and fashion has nothing to do with wearing a kilt as far as I am concerned. Wearing a kilt feels right and good; and a proper kilt is one of the most flattering forms of male attire (even on a little old curmudgeon such as myself).
With regard to "free spirits", I wish that the Scots were totally free of English governance - roll on the day when I can apply for a tartan passport!
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20th May 04, 05:55 AM
#22
Kiltedscot, I am English and I agree with you. If Scotland wants independence it should have it.
I don't pretend to even begin to understand the politics involved, but I'm guessing that independence is not a simple matter.
I may sound naive, but I think England, Ireland,and Scotland should be self governing. Like I said tho, I don't really know what I'm talking about.
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20th May 04, 06:09 AM
#23
 Originally Posted by Graham
Kiltedscot, I am English and I agree with you. If Scotland wants independence it should have it.
I don't pretend to even begin to understand the politics involved, but I'm guessing that independence is not a simple matter.
I may sound naive, but I think England, Ireland,and Scotland should be self governing. Like I said tho, I don't really know what I'm talking about.
Don't forget Wales!!
Wales has suffered English domination longer than Scotland or Ireland.
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20th May 04, 08:10 AM
#24
I've always been one to do things a bit different, but I am now at the point in my life where I don't give a rats a$$ what anyone else thinks about what I wear. (read: I'm just getting older!) I have to live my life for me, not anyone else. I certainly don't think of myself as being a trail-blazer or trend-setter, just a normal guy who happens to like the comfort of wearing a kilt.
Larry
"A chef is someone creative enough to call the same soup a different name every day"
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20th May 04, 08:37 AM
#25
Re: Are we . . .
 Originally Posted by kiltedscot
I wish that the Scots were totally free of English governance  - roll on the day when I can apply for a tartan passport!
Hey Kiltedscot, what about the English being totally free of Scottish governance. Just look how many Scottish Prime Ministers and other Cabinet Ministers there have been, relative to the populations of Scotland and England. Even Tony Blair was Scottish educated and almost certainly had to wear a kilt on formal occasions (lucky fellow). How many Englishmen are Members of the Scottish Parliament?
Rob (mostly English, but part Scottish and really a Devonian in terms of loyalty - now where did I put my Devon Passport?)
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20th May 04, 09:51 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by Robbie
Flattery gets you everywhere! No, I'm sorry but I still disagree. I work mostly in an office 9-5, go out with family/friends at night and weekends, watch tv, go on family holidays etc etc - all the things ordinary normal people do. Strong-willed (pig-headed/stubborn) and reasonably confident I will admit to, but simply always wearing a kilt does not make me "different" - I see kilts as normal wear and sometimes wonder whether this perception some have of kilt-wearing/kilt-wearers being somehow "different" is the principal obstacle nowadays to its wider use.
Hi Robbie
I would agree that all the routine things you describe are normal every day activities. I do the same. I work, enjoy being with my family, watching TV, holidays, taking exercise and so on.
But the kilt thing....you say yourself that being a full time kilter is a rare thing, even in Scotland. That, in my book, shows a degree of individuality - ergo, you are different. Different is good.
However. Your last comment. How can that be turned around.
Al
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20th May 04, 09:55 AM
#27
Re: Are we . . .
 Originally Posted by kiltedscot
With regard to "free spirits", I wish that the Scots were totally free of English governance  - roll on the day when I can apply for a tartan passport!
Interesting comments, kilted Scot. Have you seen the make-up of the British government recently? Far too many Scots for my liking!!
As for being free of English governance. Maybe when that day comes we English will be able to stop all the Scottish migrants travelling south and nicking our jobs!! I'm surrounded by Jocks at work!! And none of 'em have owned a kilt, let alone worn one.
Al
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20th May 04, 10:02 AM
#28
[quote="Doc HudsonDon't forget Wales!!
Wales has suffered English domination longer than Scotland or Ireland.[/quote]
Er...hows that exactly? None of the home nations can complain about English oppressiveness!! As far as I'm concerned, if the home nations want independance they can have it.. Just don't keep asking Westminster for hand outs.
Al
Half a Welshman.
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20th May 04, 10:13 AM
#29
Although there may be a cultural desire for independence, the reality is that they are all interdependant when it comes to money.
It is the same for Quebec in Canada.
Casey
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20th May 04, 10:32 AM
#30
Identity and Independence
Hi Kilted scot (and everyone else for that matter)
I've just looked over the last few posts and don't want to get into a slanging match about identity and independence. For one thing, our web master wouldn't be too pleased.
I'm actually very glad that many of us here, including myself, are proud to be Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Canadian, American and so on.
What is becoming very apparent in the UK is that we may soon lose our identity altogether with all the European and African migration going on. We are simply being swamped at the moment with asylum seekers and economic migrants that we soon won't know who or what we are.
So wear your kilt as a sign of your Scottishness. It might be the only way in the future of identifying you as a Scot. 8)
Al
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