Cheep and Nasty Sporran , Very Disapointed

[Norbo]

If I was keeping it I would just get it replated I know a place that does my bike parts it would cost just a couple of quid but its just crap and I wouldn't were it with the skin that's on it now he will take the sporran back and give me a full refund but he will not pay the return post . so im not sending it back until he agrees to do this . I will wate until the 29th set as e-bay rools say I have to then I can talk to e-bay direct now all they do is give me options to message him.

[Pleater]

If you can show that the item was not accurately described, or the photo was not of the item, then the seller should pay the return postage - after all you would never have bought it if he'd been honest.

eBay has accepted that argument from me in the past and put it to the seller forcefully enough to get them to change their minds about refunding and paying postage for the return. They had shown an image of a different item in the description.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[Norbo]

Well he finely paid me back what I paid for this crap after mush argument and after he got it back but he is refusing to pay the return post . E-Baty rools do now state that if the itom is not as advertised as this was the seller must pay the refund .

But there is no way they can make the seller do this they can ionly ask him to do so .

This bloke is not English, he's Indian I think and has no intention after getting it back of refunding my return post . what a scammer . I would encourage any one reading this to message this bloke and mention that you have seen pictures of the poor quality of his sporrans and why does he misadvises them as a quality item . LOL that would give him something to think about .

[bwat]

It's enough to want to make you give up on ebay. I only use it for kilts and stuff as I no longer live in Scotland. In the case of big purchases I now limit myself to five or six sellers that I've had a good experience with - two of which are advertisers here: buyakilt.com (McDonald Sporrans on ebay) and MacGregor and MacDuff.

Anyway, sorry to hear that you're not getting return postage, and thanks for giving us the warning.

[cessna152towser]

Well you got your price refunded, consider that a victory and move on.

[OC Richard]

I avoid Pakistani stuff like the plague. It's partly practicality, partly a love for quality goods, and partly patriotism (I strongly feel that we should support quality UK and North American craftsmen).

99% of the Highland Dress stuff on Ebay is Pakistani. But a vast quantity of high quality Scottish made goods are there too! One has to have a keen eye sometimes, because while usually the two sorts of goods are easily distinguished, the Pakistani makers are getting better at mimicking the appearance of legitimate goods, and sellers (often in the UK) are getting craftier in their marketing. Sometimes you have to carefully read between the lines, when sellers throw a load of verbiage which suggests that their goods are Scottish-made, but are careful not to specifically claim it.

Far better than Pakistani 'tat' is to get high quality used kilts, sporrans, jackets, etc on Ebay. Oftentimes there are great ex-hire things sold by kilt hire shops, or things sold by small firms specialising in vintage clothing, or things sold by individuals.

For example, here I am out piping at a golf course a while back. My bonnet is a Robert Mackie I bought back in the 1980s. The jacket is a very nice vintage one got cheaply on Ebay. The sporran is 100 years old and got on Ebay (but not cheaply! I got into a bidding war.) The kilt was made for me by an Edinburgh kiltmaker who sells kilts on Ebay sometimes. The ghillies were got used on Ebay (looks like they were never worn). The shooting garters were from Ebay too. The only Scottish item that I bought through ordinary channels recently were the hose.

It's the hillbilly in me that loves finding old things, old bargains especially.

[Laird_M]

Glad you got most of your money back. Thankfully he stocks nothing I want, but will make sure I don't get anything from him.

[Riverkilt]

Sadly, more proof of the warning that you can have any two of price, quality, or service.

[Stitchwiz]

...(I strongly feel that we should support quality UK and North American craftsmen).
...

Far better than Pakistani 'tat' is to get high quality used kilts, sporrans, jackets, etc on Ebay. Oftentimes there are great ex-hire things sold by kilt hire shops, or things sold by small firms specialising in vintage clothing, or things sold by individuals.

For example, here I am out piping at a golf course a while back. My bonnet is a Robert Mackie I bought back in the 1980s. The jacket is a very nice vintage one got cheaply on Ebay. The sporran is 100 years old and got on Ebay (but not cheaply! I got into a bidding war.) The kilt was made for me by an Edinburgh kiltmaker who sells kilts on Ebay sometimes. The ghillies were got used on Ebay (looks like they were never worn). The shooting garters were from Ebay too. The only Scottish item that I bought through ordinary channels recently were the hose.

It's the hillbilly in me that loves finding old things, old bargains especially.

Quality always shows and it's wonderful when you can find it for a song! You have every right to be very proud of your choices.

[tpa]

As the Post Office will tell you - proof of postage is not proof of delivery - but good luck with getting the problem sorted out.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

Anne is right but up to £25 you are covered by the post office if you have proof of postage, which is free. As he is selling these at £15.99 - £16.99, you should be ok with proof of postage, but from experience claiming is a hassle. The eBay revision is long overdue. What your seller should say is similar style sporrans sell for £125.