Kilt sample Photos

**CameronTaylor** · 3rd August 07, 11:36 PM

This has been a fascinatin' read.
I want a FK in California tartan (and I can probably sell a few more 'round here)

CT - still holdin' on to hope

**jordanjm** · 29th July 07, 09:31 PM

I have heard that here in the US, unless specifically copyrighted that arms have NO protection. US lacks anything like Lord Lyon's Court, or other body in another country.

**Kilted-Marine** · 29th July 07, 10:55 PM

DONE

All heading on the site have had the Royal Arms removed

Samples haev been made a little smaller - Still if you are on dial up or a slow connection it will take some time to load

Any More changes we need to make?

**Kilted-Marine** · 29th July 07, 11:10 PM

As a general note-Ya really can not get away with too much with this crowd...lol..I do not mind the constructive criticism and in fact it helps us make our site better - we will always be open to comments and suggestions. we did the samples page because many people asked for it

I do find it interested that the only place we posted the .com/samples.htm site was on xmark and within 48 hours we had a letter from the Scottish Tartans Authority telling us they had had a SERIOUS COMPLAINT about us... We are working on that.

When we first opened we had borrowed some ladies pictures from a website...please note this ladies pictures are on about 1000 other sites...but WE received an email from them...lol..we removed the pictures within 24 hours..problem solved.

We had the Royal Coat of Arms-it is now gone-Although I would have liked to get a letter from the Queen for my scrap boook..or at least an email...

We will always strive to make sure we are complying with any and all U.S. laws or laws that are recognized or enforceable within the USA.

**sjrapid** · 30th July 07, 02:41 AM

Mark

The tartan sample pics loaded just fine here - less than 30 seconds to load all the samples from nothing - this over about 4.6kbps DSL in London, UK.

Best regards

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 30th July 07, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by FrugalCorner

When we first opened we had borrowed some ladies pictures from a website...please note this ladies pictures are on about 1000 other sites...but WE received an email from them...lol..we removed the pictures within 24 hours..problem solved.

We had the Royal Coat of Arms-it is now gone-Although I would have liked to get a letter from the Queen for my scrap boook..or at least an email...

We will always strive to make sure we are complying with any and all U.S. laws or laws that are recognized or enforceable within the USA.

Mark,

One last peice of free advice and then I'll leave you alone. When you take a picture from someone else's web site and then use it on your own, that's not "borrowing." That's stealing. Just because that same picture may appear on lots of other sites does not make it public domain. I think you know that. (I wonder how many of those "other sites" you mention were actually retailing products from the company in question and using their product images legitimately?)

Regardless of whether or not those pictures were public domain or copyrighted material, the fact that you were initially willing to use photographs of another company's products to advertise your own simply isn't good. I didn't say anything when that subject was originally brought up in a different thread here on X Marks because others made the same points I would have made and you were quick to remove those images. However, you bring it up now again as an example of how you are striving to operate your company according to laws that are "enforceable in the USA."

This sentiment illustrates a very minimalist and legalist attitude. "If I can't be punished for it, then it's not wrong to do." But the question shouldn't be "is this enforcable in the USA?" The question should be "is this the right thing to do?"

If a tartan, for instance, is a proprietry design that is protected by law in the UK, the fact that you are having your products made in Pakistan and are selling them in the USA may mean that those protections instituted in the UK are not enforceable (or at least not easily so). But that doesn't make it right.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

**Rampant Lion** · 30th July 07, 08:09 AM

I too think that your image files are too large. I have a very fast internet connect here at work and it too longer for the sample page to load than I would expect for images of that size. Anything over 1MB for an image file is huge. Perhaps another format would work better, like .jpg/.jpeg.

I was looking through my cache and I noticed that some of the sample picture files are less that 0.5MB. If you could get all of the images to that size I think you'd be golden.

**Casper** · 30th July 07, 01:54 PM

I'd just like to jump in at this point and re-iterate that I don't beleive that its anyone's intent to bash/attack here (which, i've noticed, tends to happen a LOT, and far more than any other vendor on this site!).

Mark&Mark are great community members, and having this kind, and volume of, suggestions/comments only makes sure that they're not nailed to the wall further down the road by a more litigous individual/company!

Better here, now, by this lot than in a courtroom, where it would only get rather expensive!

- Chris

**majdan** · 30th July 07, 05:35 PM

I think that Mark has responded well to the comments offered here. I believe that he realizes that Matt knows wherefore he speaks. He's taken the comments made here and made the needed changes to his site. One of the benifets of belonging to this board is that it is a ready made "Murder Board(this is a good thing)" overflowing with knowledge and wisdom. The problem with text is that all of the communication out side of the text is lost. This opens some responses up to misinterpitation and quarling as seen between Abax and Mark as well as between The Wiz of BC and Mark. Remember that one of the rules of the froum is to be civil. We are all fellow kilties here.

Now back to the topic:

1) The pictures are large and took me a while to load as well.

2) It might be helpful to use a smaller pic size to speed up load time as people like myself who are too cheap to buy quality internet service have short attention spans will tend to skip over sites that don't load quickly and go some place that does.

3) I just bought 2 kilts from FC so it must not have been that slow but I am rather concerned that the sample kilt in Pride of Scotland looks much lighter than the tartan sample. I know that this may just be the lighting and have no desire to change my order but I just thought it was darker.

4) I'm looking forward to my new kilts with baited breath.

**ChromeScholar** · 30th July 07, 06:09 PM

One way to handle the large pic/small pic problem is to have a small pic load first with an option to click for a larger pic. This is a pretty standard way to make sure that people with older computers, slow connections or (God help them) Internet Explorer can get a page to load quickly.

As an irrelevancy, my home cable internet loaded the pic in 2.64 seconds...