Argyll outfit 'infamous'?

[hospitaller]

What do you think about it? I find it unspeakably rude.

What I always think when situations like this come up for discussion, and we've had several.

And that is, we can't choose our families, so, no offense, his loss and good on you.

I wouldnt speak with that **** either, whether it was a friend, an unknown...or worse yet...your own father.

You should be ahsamed of him, not the other way around in my book.

But in the end, it's your decision to make and to keep.

[David Dubh]

Accept your dad's appology. Explain that you wanted to wear something just a little bit special to go with him. He is your dad and you only get the one.

[McFarkus]

You're very lucky. Many fathers would not bother to apologize!

[Abax]

IK ben aangenaam verrast door de WIJZE opmerkingen die ik hier las...
Geef je vader wat tijd ... en hoe fraai je je ook uitdost, er zullen natuurlijk altijd enggeestige mensen zijn die jongeman in een ROK belachelijk vinden ...
Maak het goed Frits

Since I don't speak Ducth or Flemish, I asked http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ to translate the text above from Dutch to English and came up with:

<translate>
I have been surprised agreeably by the WISE observations which I read here… You give father what time… and how fancy you dress up yourself also, there will be of course always enggeestige people who find young person in a SKIRT ridiculous… Make the well Frits
</translate>

Maybe Frits can correct this halting translation . . .

Abax

[Abax]

. . .

He told me he would find it ashaming to be together with someone in an argyll outfit who was not scottish and that it was not a kilt on a non-scotsman, but a skirt.
. . .
What do you think about it? I find it unspeakably rude.

My response is a little different than others.

I think it is too easy for people to excuse their own rude behavior for some "cause" they imagine justifies their impolitic acts. Some people think they have earned the right to be rude or abrupt because they are older. Other people think they *have to be* rude or the person they're talking to won't hear them. But the excuses are all inane. Being old, having parented children, having triumphed over some indignity . . . none of these achievements come with the right to be rude. And it seems all too easy to be rude to the people closest to you.

Tell your father that you love him, but you expect him to be polite to you. If he's not comfortable showing up with you at *his* dinner while you wear a kilt, he certainly has a right to express that, and you'll love him none the less. He doesn't need to change his view of the world for you. But he does need to know that you expect him to communicate his views in a polite and sensitive manner. As his son and a member of his family, you deserve his best behavior.

Abax

[The Vicar]

The kilt is not common to your father in the family dress of which he grew up in so he voiced his opinion.

Did he say something that hurt you? Yes he did.

Did he apologize to you for his hurtful words? Yes he did. (Key Point)!

The fact that your father has realized what he said hurt you and that he has reached out the olive branch of peace is a much larger act of love than most people I think recognize.

Now you know where your father stands on the kilt.

My parent's are from Germany and I wore a kilt at work for years and they think it looks great! They prefer my Bavarian/ Tirol jacket and slacks but they still love me for who I am.

I feel your father loves you for who you are too.

Robert "V"

[macwilkin]

My response is a little different than others.

I think it is too easy for people to excuse their own rude behavior for some "cause" they imagine justifies their impolitic acts. Some people think they have earned the right to be rude or abrupt because they are older. Other people think they *have to be* rude or the person they're talking to won't hear them. But the excuses are all inane. Being old, having parented children, having triumphed over some indignity . . . none of these achievements come with the right to be rude. And it seems all too easy to be rude to the people closest to you.

Tell your father that you love him, but you expect him to be polite to you. If he's not comfortable showing up with you at *his* dinner while you wear a kilt, he certainly has a right to express that, and you'll love him none the less. He doesn't need to change his view of the world for you. But he does need to know that you expect him to communicate his views in a polite and sensitive manner. As his son and a member of his family, you deserve his best behavior.

Abax

I think this is the best post of this entire thread; Spot on Abax!

Todd