formal jackets and the cookie cutter aversion

**Bugbear** · 26th October 09, 10:37 PM

Be careful with that velvet, it can be very difficult to work with. If you haven't already, you might want to read up on working with velvet.

**Phil** · 27th October 09, 05:52 AM

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**Phil** · 27th October 09, 05:56 AM

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**Bugbear** · 27th October 09, 06:48 AM

Ok, I had to look it up. I knew that Panache has a dark blue doublet in the style having a belt. Turns out it is a Montrose, as far as I can tell.

I don't find anything about any other doublets with belts, so if there is one it would be good to know the name.

**OC Richard** · 27th October 09, 06:48 AM

Well about the topic of large guys in the Scottish regiments:
- I recently bought an ex-army No2 Dress jacket with 48 inch chest, 42 inch waist, and made for a person 6 foot 4 inches tall. That's me to a "T" right now!!
-Back around 1800 the Black Watch had a private described as a "giant". I have a book that talks about him somewhere but I can't find it at the moment.
-Back in the 1960's there was a huge Pipe Major of the Black Watch named Anderson IIRC. I think they called him "The Big Ugg". Here he is:

Here's the jacket style seen over and over again from the 1860's up through the 1930's. I have literally dozens of old photos of pipers and non-pipers wearing this same style. No one seems to make it any more. An old Highland Dress catalogue mentions a "Celtic Jacket" and I'm wondering if that is what they called this style:

**McMurdo** · 27th October 09, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

Ok, I had to look it up. I knew that Panache has a dark blue doublet in the style having a belt. Turns out it is a Montrose, as far as I can tell.

I don't find anything about any other doublets with belts, so if there is one it would be good to know the name.

Ted
Jamie's Doublet is a Sheriffmuir and I believe it is Black, I have a Montrose, it is also Black.

**Bugbear** · 27th October 09, 07:28 AM

Oops! Sorry.

I think I just misread one of his posts about white tie. That's probably why I was having a difficult time looking it up; never mind.
Sheriffmuirs are good, though. I'm still not finding any other doublets mentioned that have belts.

* These are a couple of the posts that confused me about the Panache doublet:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...7&postcount=20
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...6&postcount=10

Just mixed up.

**Phil** · 27th October 09, 09:10 AM

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**Bugbear** · 27th October 09, 09:33 AM

Um, going by all of the pictures, which look like photobucket links to me, those are Montrose doublets. I guess that is what MacLowlife is refering to then. I can't find anything else; it would have been neat if there were though.

Here's a link to my own thread, from way back when, on the non-cookiecutter kilt jackets:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/t...x.html?t=47999

**JSFMACLJR** · 27th October 09, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Here's the jacket style seen over and over again from the 1860's up through the 1930's. I have literally dozens of old photos of pipers and non-pipers wearing this same style. No one seems to make it any more. An old Highland Dress catalogue mentions a "Celtic Jacket" and I'm wondering if that is what they called this style:

That doublet is pretty much the basic "regulation doublet." Just a few bits added for a piper, and slightly different tailoring and button placement, but nonetheless aregulation doublet.