Australian "Utilikilts"?

[Chirs]

For information.

There are other replies from Shaun which are currently going through moderation so please do not assume that he does not wish to reply to matters raised.

I am glad that you let us know. It would be a very dark mark against a person who lets fly with one post then ignores the responses.

And when he is back I will want to know: What is a 'whinger'?

[Downunder Kilt]

I am glad that you let us know. It would be a very dark mark against a person who lets fly with one post then ignores the responses.

And when he is back I will want to know: What is a 'whinger'?

Translation to American is a whiner, one who complains non stop to the point of irritation (pronunciation is win-ger)

Don't know if it's the same translation to Canadian

[Chirs]

Translation to American is a whiner, one who complains non stop to the point of irritation (pronunciation is win-ger)

Don't know if it's the same translation to Canadian

Thank you. And, fortunately, I do speak a bit of American so your translation works for me.

[CDNSushi]

What is a 'whinger'?

The same as a "whiner." In meme-speak, a "whiner" is someone who needs some with their , which may then require for someone to call the

[Jimmy of Perth]

Just want you all to know I am someone who has bought through Shaun at Oz-Kilts.

I can see he has made some unfortunate errors of judgment. As a yound start up company I think & hope he will learn from his mistakes. I believe he has the potential to deliver a good unique product.

I believe I was his first customer. This was my first foray into kilts. I am in Australia

I had never actively pursued getting a kilt until a recent accident. (I might post that story on the Newbie section as it is probably unique.) Suffice to say I wanted a durable kilt and fast. The need for speed meant I first looked local. After a quick bit of research I found some traditional kilts immediatley available and could get something in a tartan which matched my heritage but dicovered these were way out of my price comfort zone.

A friend then told me about utility kilts. I jumped on the web and searched "Utility Kilt, Australia". Up popped Oz Kilts. These interested me because they looked so practical - robust and with pockets. Just what I wanted. I stopped searching. So at that stage was blissfully unaware of Uitilkilts and all the other off-shore options.

I rang Shaun. He was easy to reach and cool to talk to. He assured me a kilt would be available in three weeks (which was not as fast as I really wanted). Well it actually took five and that was dissapointing. I understand the problem lay with his suppliers. The kilt itself appeared great but I had ordered a size too small. DAMN! It was wholly ME who made that mistake (not Shauns & I know better now!). So I had to send it back

Now that I know what Utilikilt looks like, I assure you they are not the same. Amongst other things, Shauns sit much higher on waist (more like a tradional kilt) and have 3 nice leather straps. To me, who although untrained in kilts, has an idea on clothing quality in material and construction. Oz Kilts are good value for money. The fabric, weight, stitching and leather quality were all fine. I would have been happy with it.

My once urgent need is no longer current. And I've had time to do a ton of research (including a lot from trawling through this great site). I consider myself well informed.

This week I reluctantly asked for a refund (Shaun had always been clear refunds were absolutley no problem if not completely satisfied and he was true to his word). The only reason I am not buying an Oz Kilt now is because I want to be able to throw a kilt into the washing machine and I felt the leather straps on Shauns might not appreciate that.

I have now ordered a not dissimlar priced utility kilt but with fabric straps from a competitor. (NB total price is significantly higher due to international freight). I will be very interested to compare the quality differences

I liked dealing with Shaun despite some teething problems and I do like his product. I would not rule out an Oz Kilt in my wardrobe in the future. I wish Oz Kilts well.

[kc8ufv]

You are right about the pictures: right off the Utilikilt web site. The tan is the UK Survival tan and the brown is the Original.

I'm always concerned about anyone who will lift pictures of others people's products and use them as their own.

I am also now interested to see what response comes from your email.

I thought I saw an AmeriKilt, with the clips for their sporran in the photo lineup as well...

[McClef]

I regret to announce that Eauford has forfeited his right of reply by not complying with repeated requests by the Owner and Moderators to turn down his comments and phraseology. He was given every opportunity to do so.

[Father Bill]

Well, sounds as if he's both rude and self-righteous as well as somewhat lacking in integrity. So... now would I recommend him?

Maybe not.

[Chirs]

I truly regret that this has ended in this fashion. I can understand frustration on his part, even if only caused by not fully understanding the subtleties of this community (every community has them) but he has robbed himself of an opportunity here. I wish him well in his endeavours, endeavours which shall not include me.

[flyrod6057]

I truly regret that this has ended in this fashion. I can understand frustration on his part, even if only caused by not fully understanding the subtleties of this community (every community has them) but he has robbed himself of an opportunity here. I wish him well in his endeavours, endeavours which shall not include me.

Here, here!