It's time for my annual Viscose rant.

[Kylahullu]

Now that we know how to spell it, I'm wondering how it's pronounced. Just dawned on me that I've never heard anybody say it.

Does the first syllable rhyme with ice, kiss, eyes, or is? The second with coast or cost?

English is a funny language.
Take the word 'viscose'.
If you know Finnish you just have to think 'viscose' written 'viscous' and read it as if it was Finnish. That way you can pronounce 'viscose' correctly.

So, if I some day get mixed with those words, please be merciful to me...
(Or is it that Finnish is a funny language? Every letter has its own syllable and vice versa.)

[WillowEstate]

Hmm, I pronounce is vis-(as in kiss)-cose-(as in coast). The "i" is short, because it is followed by a double consonant and the "o" is long because it is followed both by a single consonant and suffix "e" which lengthens a vowel.

But then one of the joys of the English language is that you can always find an exception - I leave those to your own research.

[Sharkman]

"Kilts are not viscous at all. Neither are they Slimy, Gooey, or Dribble-y."

Depending on who has been wearing them they could be very "Viscous" ! lol!!

I do understand you're frustration though!

[Mikilt]

Many are the times I've come this close
To mispronouncing "polyviscose"
But there's no telling
With creative spelling
The sounds which we have missed most

[TheOfficialBren]

Just please don't send me to prism for it, but I just had a vision of LEDs embedded in the pleats. I bet that would look interesting.

Back to the subject, I don't think PV photographs well. I just got a Scott Weathered casual from Rocky and the photos of the tartan don't do it justice.

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Plus...well...you know.



I agree. My Holyrood casual (available if you're wondering about P/V) is gorgeous in person. The hand is song ad the colours are rich and vibrant.

It honestly does give wool a run for its money in the aesthetics department.

[Tobus]

As an aside, and as I've reported on X Marks before, my primary throwing kilt, which has seen MANY ridiculously hot and sunny days, is showing some significant color fading in the pleats. I'm not dreaming this up as the inside of the kilt is fine, and the underapron is fine. In all fairness, however, I think I'm the only person to ever report such an issue. It could be that this is sweat-induced fading rather than sunlight-induced.

Alan, that certainly is a unique issue. I can't imagine that it could possibly be sweat that's fading your kilt. UV light exposure has to be the cause. Maybe it's your radiant personality that's to blame?

Seriously, we can call this material whatever fancy name we wish, but at the end of the day, it's plastic. As I understand it (and please somebody correct me if I'm mistaken), there is no process of dyeing PV fibers. They are spun (extruded?) from plastic fibers that are that colour to begin with. If sweat could fade plastic, I'm sure it would be common knowledge.

I could be wrong, of course. But someone with expert knowledge of synthetic materials needs to explain how that would happen purely from sweat or skin contact. I can't figure out how that would work, chemically.

[RockyR]

SNIP... As I understand it (and please somebody correct me if I'm mistaken), there is no process of dyeing PV fibers. They are spun (extruded?) from plastic fibers that are that colour to begin with. If sweat could fade plastic, I'm sure it would be common knowledge.

I could be wrong, of course.

As explained to me (with admittedly limited knowledge myself of the dyeing process) by Marton Mills: PV threads must actually be put through the dying process TWICE as the Polyester fibers takes dyes a certain way and the Viscose fibers takes the dye a different way. The threads must be dyed twice to get the desired color.

[ratspike]

As an aside, and as I've reported on X Marks before, my primary throwing kilt, which has seen MANY ridiculously hot and sunny days, is showing some significant color fading in the pleats. I'm not dreaming this up as the inside of the kilt is fine, and the underapron is fine. In all fairness, however, I think I'm the only person to ever report such an issue. It could be that this is sweat-induced fading rather than sunlight-induced. Others, including Steve Ashton have extensive experience with Marton Mills Polyester-Viscose and don't report any fading.

Nope, you're not dreaming or losing your marbles. My wedding clothes are basically disposable because they spend a lot of time outside in the hot and sunny. Black vests are reddish gray and my shirts, deep and rich colors when new, are considerably less so after a season of wear. I don't go top shelf but not cheap either, usually from Macy's. Hard summer use can make fabric unhappy.

[HootinHoller]

Nope, you're not dreaming or losing your marbles. My wedding clothes are basically disposable

Do you get married that often? I only have one ex and found the whole process to be rather expensive ;)

[ratspike]

Once was enough. I much prefer other people paying me to attend theirs instead.