What would you do if your mother asked you?

[McClef]

Anne had many children but they all died in infancy or very young.

[gilmore]

Anne had many children but they all died in infancy or very young.

Yes, she d.s.p.

[Panache]

I thought I would post a follow up to this. A few days ago we went to my in laws for dinner. While there I learned that my mother-in-law is a descendant of William and Mary of Orange. (I knew she had to have Scot blood somewhere.) Then she said that one of the neighbors has asked who is the guy who comes around in skirts. She replied that it is her son-in-law who wears a kilt because he is proud of his Scottish Heritage. She has figured it out, and accepted this aspect of me.

(Emphasis Mine)

OK, I think that the focus here should be on jordanjm and his Mother-in-Law and how jj took a positive and respectful approach to dealing with someone who had issues with his kilt wearing, AND WON HER OVER!

I say bravo for jordanjm for avoiding confrontation, keeping your cool, and turning around your Mother-in-Law's point of view.

May I also say bravo to jordanjm's Mother-in-Law for moving forward and being open to a change of opinion.

Isn't it rather nice that a dialogue has opened up between these two people about not only kilts but heritage. I think rather than continuing to browbeat this woman for her original view, we should praise her for her new one.

It also occurs to me that when people start thinking and talking about about geneology and family history that there may quite often be a lot of family lore that isn't true among the facts. Let us encourage jordanjm and the oft-mentioned here MIL on this new endeavor. Perhaps we could refrain from disparing remarks that serve no purpose other than to foster ill will.

As a moderator of this forum, I think that a very good idea indeed.

Respectfully

Jamie

[ardchoille]

A parent must do that which benefits their child and shield the child from that which is detrimental. Tell her to open her mind to reality, and if she's going to be a bad influence on the child.. maybe she shouldn't see the child anymore.

[Panache]

ardcholle,

Please take a minute and read the update from jordanjm immediately above your response. The Mother-in-law in question has taken a different stance with a bit of gentle teaching. Perhaps you should edit your post.

Cheers

Jamie

[jordanjm]

Did William have any other children with any one else?

[McClef]

Not heard of any but if he did they would have been illegitimate.

His wife Mary had 3 unsuccessful pregnancies.

[Galician]

Additionally, William was not English, but Dutch.

[gilmore]

Additionally, William was not English, but Dutch.

But was a first cousin to his wife, Mary, and a Stuart descendant.

As the late Victoria Eugenia, Queen of Spain, is said to have remarked to an American who complimented her on her English, "I am not Spanish. I am the Queen of Spain."


At any rate William probably had no children outside of his marriage since he is reputed to have prefered the company of men to that of women.

The only way the woman in question could be descended from anyone closely related at all to William and Mary is if she descends from Bonnie Prince Charlie, Mary's great nephew, through an illegitimate daughter. I believe all of those people are Polish.

[Archangel]

But was a first cousin to his wife, Mary, and a Stuart descendant.

As the late Victoria Eugenia, Queen of Spain, is said to have remarked to an American who complimented her on her English, "I am not Spanish. I am the Queen of Spain."


At any rate William probably had no children outside of his marriage since he is reputed to have prefered the company of men to that of women.

The only way the woman in question could be descended from anyone closely related at all to William and Mary is if she descends from Bonnie Prince Charlie, Mary's great nephew, through an illegitimate daughter. I believe all of those people are Polish.

And this relates to the thread how?

So what if it's wrong, it's a classic bob and weave and MIL and DH are talking again. Progress.

In any case my input would have been to have DW speak to MIL and I stay out of it. If DW didn't want to speak to MIL, oh well, I wouldn't push it.

Because the other rule takes over. GRANDCHILDREN CAN DO NO WRONG BEFORE THEY ARE TWELVE YEARS OLD. Take the kilted child and MIL out to, oh , say Starbucks, let somebody else make a similar comment and watch all hell break loose.

Stay cool, don't do any permanent damage to MIL, and you, actually Grandson, will win this. You've already made progress.