Are you REALLY Celtic?

**Standard** · 8th February 08, 05:42 PM

Hmm.... lower than average body temp.. Check. Wider feet.. Check. "Big" toes same length as the second toe.. Check. Some red in the beard... Check. Well, that sounds scientific enough for what I already knew.

In and amongst other things ancestors of Scottish, Welsh, Scotch-Irish, Norman, German, and American Indian orgins I do consider myself at least partly celtic in orgin. Think that being celtic for me is as much a mindset as an actual lineage after you get the basic American "heinz-57" mix going on for several generations!

On that note, I will get to wear my new kilt to our local Burns' night tomorrow evening.

**dowofbuchanan** · 15th March 08, 11:23 AM

well my second toes are just over 1/4 inch longer than the first on both feet my 3rd toes are the same as big to im prehensile my feet are 5 inches wide (read flinstone by me exes) my body temp is between 96.5 and 97 and while i have brown hair and black beard i have a red goatee and moustache im also 6'1 at rest my hands look like im holding a beer can but i can if i try straighten them so i dont know about that however my grandmothers family tree project goes back to scotland so its all a mute point really i found a dna project for the dow males and its 189 for a 37 panel 148 for a 25 and 269 for a 67 panel which is really what i need for the money ? i also think that beer should look like coffee but that may ne besides the point

**Bob C** · 15th March 08, 01:42 PM

I've never paid that much attention to other people's feet, so I assumed everyone's second toe was as long as the first. Mine are, like some others here, just a bit longer than the big toe.

I don't have the fat feet that some others here describe, however.

**Jack Daw** · 1st February 08, 09:39 PM

Viking! And, how cold does your blood run, Steve?

**SteveB** · 1st February 08, 10:07 PM

Jack,
Supposedly 97.5. I haven't checked in decades. However I am good at dissipating heat, as my spouse thinks of me as a great hot water bottle.

Cold blooded = MOS 408, mine in Vietnam.

Steve

**Arizona Scot** · 1st February 08, 11:07 PM

Okay had to check yep second toe is longer, and I usually run about 96.6 on the thermometer.

**SFCRick** · 1st February 08, 11:23 PM

Celtic for sure

**Moosedog** · 2nd February 08, 12:48 AM

Actually pronation is when your feet roll inward...when you walk on the outside of your feet it is supinating.

Hm, like many here I have wide feet with high arches, I supinate, can pick things up with my toes.

Moosedog

**BoldHighlander** · 2nd February 08, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Moosedog

Hm, like many here I have wide feet with high arches, I supinate, can pick things up with my toes.

Moosedog

Yep, yep, & yep to all those

While my family genealogy shows mainly Ulster Scot (Scots-Irish) & Highland Scots, theres a strong dose of Irish (what my family always called "Black Irish") & Cherokee on both sides. Then English, and if we go far enough back I find wee introductions of Austrian / Swiss / German & Norse.
When folks ask my ethnic background I've always said "Heinz 57"

**The Wizard of BC** · 2nd February 08, 01:28 AM

Ummmm, nobody throw sharp or pointy things at me for this, but Celtic does not refer to an nation or group of peoples. It refers to a language family. It is like trying to say I'm Romatic because my ancestors came from Germany, or Italy, or Spain, or France. All Romance Languages, all related, but what a difference.
We today say things like "I am Celtic" like we would say "I am Welsh" or "I am Scottish". When we should be saying "My ancestors spoke one of the Celtic Languages". A small point I know, and to some they may mean the same thing. But to an Anthropologist they are worlds apart. And a Geneticist doesn't know or care what language was spoken by the donor of DNA.

Now to throw a monkey wrench into the toe thing. The trait of having a "big" or first toe shorter than the next is not being linked to anything Celtic. It is being linked to the H Haploid genetic group. These are only one group of peoples who came north from the Middle East, split into two with one going into the Balkans and one across the northern Mediterranean Sea. The Peoples who settled in the British Isles after the last Ice age arrived from the Atlantic seaboard of France. Before that they were in the Basque region of Spain. and before that N. Italy.

May I offer these small tokens from the National Gallery Washington DC.

All of these were done in Northern Italy in the early 1500's.