Do you?

[Ancienne Alliance]

I do the same as you Jock, I also open car doors and pull out chairs, I must admit to not standing every time a woman enters the room, I guess it's my upbringing. I also think that part of the reason you do not see such gestures in North America anymore would be the proliferance of Baseball Hats, actually I prefer the term Baseball Caps, as these are truly not hats. I think they are absolutely ridiculous it is to my mind akin to wearing some other piece of athletic wear when not on the field. Perhaps I should change with the times but I absolutely loath Baseball Caps.

You said it all !


Best,

robert

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I do the same as you Jock, I also open car doors and pull out chairs,

Is this done before they sit, or while they are in the act of sitting?

I must admit to not standing every time a woman enters the room, I guess it's my upbringing. I also think that part of the reason you do not see such gestures in North America anymore would be the proliferance of Baseball Hats, actually I prefer the term Baseball Caps, as these are truly not hats. I think they are absolutely ridiculous it is to my mind akin to wearing some other piece of athletic wear when not on the field. Perhaps I should change with the times but I absolutely loath Baseball Caps.

I'm not sure I loathe 'ball caps as much as I tend to abhor the behavior of those most often seen under them.

As far as removing my hat to a lady-- well, yes, always to a lady. It is a bit different with a balmoral, but generally I am pretty much in lockstep with Jock and Sandy. Formal situations (outdoors) are a bit different. If I am being formally introduced to a lady, it's bonnet on (especially with big feathers), a slight inclination of the body, and a gracious bow from the neck. Goodbye is much the same, except a gentle touching of the bonnet accompanies the "bow from the neck".

Those in 'ball caps should remove their cap, avert their gaze, and tug their fore lock. If you doubt this, PM McMurdo.

[McMurdo]

Is this done before they sit, or while they are in the act of sitting?

For car doors before Pulling out the chair normally before also.

I'm not sure I loathe 'ball caps as much as I tend to abhor the behavior of those most often seen under them.

I would have to agree with that statement.

As far as removing my hat to a lady-- well, yes, always to a lady. It is a bit different with a balmoral, but generally I am pretty much in lockstep with Jock and Sandy. Formal situations (outdoors) are a bit different. If I am being formally introduced to a lady, it's bonnet on (especially with big feathers), a slight inclination of the body, and a gracious bow from the neck. Goodbye is much the same, except a gentle touching of the bonnet accompanies the "bow from the neck".

I would do the same, in a formal outdoor setting

Those in 'ball caps should remove their cap, avert their gaze, and tug their fore lock. If you doubt this, PM McMurdo.

Please do, perhaps I can show you the error of your ways.

[beloitpiper]

I'll only remove my hat when being introduced at a more-than-casual situation. Otherwise, things are way more informal around here. Especially in Madison and Beloit (College) where women want to be treated the same as men.

[Standard]

where women want to be treated the same as men.

Ah, and therein lies the rub.

Although I must admit it has been quite some time since I was "scolded" for opening the door for a 'lady'. As for the hat tip, when introduced while wearing a cap the most common for me is to remove the hat entirely, barring that the thumb and fore-finger to the brim as several others have mentioned.

[beloitpiper]

Ah, and therein lies the rub.

Really? I've never seen it as a problem.

[thescot]

I do almost exactly the same as Jock. I always make a "tip of the hat" gesture to a lady when introduced without actually taking the bonnet off. Only when meeting an older (much older) lady do I make a show of removing the bonnet. I do so out of respect for the lady's advanced age.

[Alan H]

baseball cap post deleted, 'cause not necessary. Carry on!

[SFCRick]

I do the same as you Jock

[piperdbh]

I'm happy to report I've mended my manners!

This evening I went to a bluegrass pickin', and wore a western-style hat (not kilted; blue jeans and flannel shirt instead). I made a point of either raising the hat off my head or lifting the brim to every lady I spoke with. These ladies ranged in age from 50-86, and I'm 32. They ALL liked it. Theirs eyes widened, a smile came upon their faces, and their deportment softened.

I know there are some folks who think all that sort of thing is out of style or offensive to women, but, to the ones I interacted with tonight, it was much appreciated.

Carry on, lads, carry on.