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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Actually, it's not all that bad. It seems daunting on the page, but when you lay out all of that stuff on the bed and start getting dressed, it really isn't any more of a bother than putting on a suit and tie (except for the sword, which you have to be careful not to close in the car door). Once you are through the door, everybody else is in pretty much the same sort of rig, and you just enjoy the company. It is surprisingly unpretentious, everyone is really going out of their way to be more than superficially nice, and when it's over, and you are back in your car headed home, you find that you really did have a good time, and you rather wish you could do it again next week.

    Now a formal outfit like that is not something one sees everyday (or in my case, ever.) You must look resplendent. How about a picture of yourself MoR?

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    Phil,
    Simply because you have personal knowledge of guests at a wedding turning up improperly attired doesn't mean that it is in any way misleading to say that there are rules, and to suggest that those rules should be followed. On the contrary, it would seem to positively underscore the need to explain to people "how things are supposed to be done".

    I gather from your last remark that, as there are a fair number of "dinosaurs" who are members here at X Marks the Scot, and to quote your paraphrasing of Julius Marx, "I wouldn't want to be in any club that would have them as members", you are planning on leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    I gather from your last remark that, as there are a fair number of "dinosaurs" who are members here at X Marks the Scot, and to quote your paraphrasing of Julius Marx, "I wouldn't want to be in any club that would have them as members", you are planning on leaving.
    My dear MOR, I find you here and in excellent form at 5a.m. your time. Have you just returned from yet another Ball? The club I was referring to was, of course, the Caledonian Ball as you know perfectly well. Unless, of course, you are by now completely befuddled from lack of sleep and your "sword" became trapped in the door of your car.
    As to "rules", my experience has been that these are most closely followed by those anxious to curry favour and toady-in to those they regard as their "betters".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Phil,
    Simply because you have personal knowledge of guests at a wedding turning up improperly attired doesn't mean that it is in any way misleading to say that there are rules, and to suggest that those rules should be followed. On the contrary, it would seem to positively underscore the need to explain to people "how things are supposed to be done".

    I gather from your last remark that, as there are a fair number of "dinosaurs" who are members here at X Marks the Scot, and to quote your paraphrasing of Julius Marx, "I wouldn't want to be in any club that would have them as members", you are planning on leaving.
    Phil made no reference to leaving xmarks as this is a club that is happy to receive him. Mind we don't step on somebody's toes over white socks.
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    Here is a good one for those arbiters of taste - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle5882996.ece

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    Just for the record, I am privatly thankful that MacMillan of Rathdown does not post pictures. It insures that he has to describe what he is talking about rather than saying here is a picture of what I am talking about.

    * sigh *
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    I have read quotations from the MacKinnon of Dunakin book here on the forum. It has put to rest several kilt rental myths about the restrictiveness of highland attire. I'm sure it would be an enlightening read.
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    Twa_Corbies, you use the term "jabot type shirt" in the artical. would you explain or describe what this is? I know what a jabot is, but I don't seem to have read about a jabot shirt before on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    Twa_Corbies, you use the term "jabot type shirt" in the artical. would you explain or describe what this is? I know what a jabot is, but I don't seem to have read about a jabot shirt before on the forum.
    They make lace jabots and cuffs that are separate articles that aren't attached to a shirt, and then there are jabot shirts which have the lace jabot and cuffs attached to them. The latter is a far better idea since you don't have to worry about the cuffs and jabot slipping the way you might if you wore them as attachments. The jabot shirt is of course more traditional as well, since the separate cuffs and jabot were worn in immatation of the shirt, rather like wearing a dickie with a dinner jacket (which I doubt anyone does these days, since they are far more trouble than just wearing a formal shirt).

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    Um... I've never heard of these shirts, and I really don't know anything about this.

    However, if I ever get a dress Argyle, I think I would prefer to wear the jabot and high cut waistcoat, rather than the black bow tie. Perhaps a Sheriffmuir doublet with the jabot; anything but a Prince Charlie.

    There's just a certen classieness to a jabot that I like. And it is... just somewhat dreaming.

    * Sorry That's all black tie attire dreams and this is a white tie attire thread. I just love learning about this stuff, though. *
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