Younger "kilters" wearing tweed

**JRB** · 13th September 09, 09:51 PM

Is a tweed shooting jacket the same garment as a hacking jacket?

**Jock Scot** · 13th September 09, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by JRB

Is a tweed shooting jacket the same garment as a hacking jacket?

No is the short answer. A hacking jacket is more like, but not as long the Yellow(known a lemon with that pack of hounds) hunting jacket in the picture ,only in tweed and without the buttons above the single vent at the back and they are more closely cut(tailored) than a shooting coat and with more of a flaired "skirt". A shooting jacket is looser at the shoulders to allow free movement to mount your gun,often they will have "poachers pockets" and often they have twin vents at the back.

**Bruno** · 14th September 09, 05:33 AM

They do reckon that tweed is in fashion at present. Nike has bought a huge quantity for trainers (sports/running shoes?) Hand bags use it a lot etc. So here are my thoughts on Tweed.

I am lucky to live in the isle of Lewis/Harris which is positively heaving with the stuff. A lot of folks buy bolts of cloth to take home and have their tailors run up their jackets or such.

To be honest you see to much Harris tweed here (go figure) There is a wonderful shop in Stornoway with a eccentric old codger ,that looks like a old shed piled with wool and tweed products. He has half the Seanmhair on the island knitting stuff for him.

I would recommend getting the material first as there are so many different tweeds. They all have different qualities and look different in the same pattern. You will go from the vulgar to the sombre in the same style of coat and that range just does not happen in shops.

**Paul** · 14th September 09, 06:08 AM

Thanks for the pics Jock. I don't know where these people get their information about tweed Argylls being worn solely for hunting. I know this is not the case as just about everyone with a kilt jacket at The Gathering and other games events wears a tweed.
I'm trying to talk myself into it but I'm not good at convincing anyone about anything!

**Kid Cossack** · 14th September 09, 06:26 AM

Paul:

I won't pile on about the hose and the tie, since I think the general consensus is, well, a general consensus.

The main thing I wanted to say is that the tweed looks simply smashing. I don't think there's any sort of age limit on tweed, I wore a fair bit back when I wore a suit for a living, and I was just a young punk then.

Very classy!

**Jock Scot** · 14th September 09, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Paul.

Thanks for the pics Jock. I don't know where these people get their information about tweed Argylls being worn solely for hunting. I know this is not the case as just about everyone with a kilt jacket at The Gathering and other games events wears a tweed.
I'm trying to talk myself into it but I'm not good at convincing anyone about anything!

Ah the " I used to be indecisive, but now I am not so sure" syndrome. At first that all looks a bit of a thorny problem. Actually it is not, just don your kilt and whatever you decide to wear at the wedding and enjoy the day!You will be just fine. My father told me a story when I was about 10, a true one, about an American Civil War Admiral, who's name escapes me, who in the heat of battle gave the order " damn the torpedoes(mines in those days) full steam ahead!" Now! That is the attitude to have and it has held me steady on more than one occasion. Try it yourself----------- it works wonders!

**McMurdo** · 14th September 09, 06:50 AM

Admiral David Glasgow Farragut (1801-1870), the first senior officer of the U.S. Navy at the time of the American Civil War. Aboard Hartford, Farragut entered Mobile Bay, Alabama, 5 August 1864, in two columns, with armored monitors leading and a fleet of wooden ships following. When the lead monitor Tecumseh was demolished by a mine, the wooden ship Brooklyn stopped, and the line drifted in confusion toward Fort Morgan. As disaster seemed imminent, Farragut gave the orders embodied by these famous words. He swung his own ship clear and headed across the mines, which failed to explode. The fleet followed and anchored above the forts, which, now isolated, surrendered one by one. The torpedoes to which Farragut and his contemporaries referred would today be described as tethered mines. [Hearn, Chester G. Admiral David Glasgow Farragut:The Civil War Years. (Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 1988): 263-265. According to the book by Admiral Farragut's son, The Life of David Glasgow Farragut, First Admiral of the United States Navy, (New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1879), pages 416-417, Admiral Farragut said "Damn the torpedoes! Four bells! Captain Crayton, go ahead! Joucett, full speed!"]

I completely agree Jock there are times when that is the best course of action.

**JRB** · 14th September 09, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

No is the short answer. A hacking jacket is more like, but not as long the Yellow(known a lemon with that pack of hounds) hunting jacket in the picture ,only in tweed and without the buttons above the single vent at the back and they are more closely cut(tailored) than a shooting coat and with more of a flaired "skirt". A shooting jacket is looser at the shoulders to allow free movement to mount your gun,often they will have "poachers pockets" and often they have twin vents at the back.

Yikes! That's a lot to take in. Thanks for the information.

**Paul** · 14th September 09, 07:27 PM

Thanks Jock.
I certainly will go full steam ahead with whatever I decide to wear to the wedding - and same in future events. I waqsn't sure about the tweed myself but I'll do a proper "dress rehearsal" with a few different outfits the day before, pick one and stick to it. The tweed is certainly an option though.