View Poll Results: Should we have a tartan specifically for educators?
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27th May 10, 08:25 PM
#41
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by cajunscot
And just for the record, I'm not necessarily opposed to designing new tartans, including this one. I was just trying to explain my opinion as an educator about this tartan. Again, horses for courses.
T.
As the fictional Highland Chief, Hector Naismith MacDonald would say, "quite"!
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28th May 10, 10:14 AM
#42
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by figheadair
No! Sorry guys but this is just more unnecessary proliferation. Why not one for: doctors, dentist, paramedics, janitors, binmen, road sweepers, tree surgeons, trawlermen, lighting engineers etc etc. How about one for every job or profession.
I see nothing wrong in this at all. What is wrong with tartan proliferation? Perhaps the inverse question would be helpful--What are the only 'acceptable' tartans? I'm sure the opinions and debate on this would hum along a good long spell. So if there can be no quantifiable minimum number, how can there be a maximum number?
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28th May 10, 10:34 AM
#43
I am a teacher. I voted no. I would have no problem with one, but for me it is a Why bother? issue.
I do have an XMTS kilt, and a kilt in a fashion tartan.
Ron
Ron Stewart
'S e ar roghainn a th' ann - - - It is our choices
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28th May 10, 10:49 AM
#44
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by creagdhubh
As the fictional Highland Chief, Hector Naismith MacDonald would say, "quite"! ![Laughing](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Fictional? What do you mean "fictional"? I thought that show was a documentary of real Highland life.
--dbh
When given a choice, most people will choose.
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28th May 10, 05:49 PM
#45
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by ronstew
I am a teacher. I voted no. I would have no problem with one, but for me it is a Why bother? issue.
I do have an XMTS kilt, and a kilt in a fashion tartan.
Ron
My thought was that an "teacher tartan" would be a fashion tartan as well. A pattern designed by a specific group to give recognition and a sense of membership to that group.
My impression is that those who vote "no" for this disapprove of any of the other "fashion" or "corporate" tartans.
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28th May 10, 05:57 PM
#46
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by NewEnglander
My impression is that those who vote "no" for this disapprove of any of the other "fashion" or "corporate" tartans.
Not true, at least for me. I don't have an issue with fashion or corporate tartans per se, nor do I with this proposed idea -- but as an educator, I just don't see the "need" for it. If someone else choose to wear it, then bully for them. Horses for courses.
T.
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28th May 10, 09:18 PM
#47
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by bricekolob
I believe that most of us, if not all of us, work in a school were there is not a tartan associated with the school.
Aye, but then why don't we design a tartan for the school instead of trying to make some such universal tartan for teachers?
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28th May 10, 09:28 PM
#48
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Whidbey78
EMT's have a tartan tartan if memory serves.
Doctors and dentists(no offense to any on this forum) make enough to design their own, even separated into specialties.
Janitors, road sweepers, etc. have the Utilikilt Monochromatic tartan...wait. Nevermind.
I see nothing wrong with this "proliferation." If someone wants to deign it, it gets woven, and someone wants a kilt made from it, more power to them.
Besides, I get sick of seeing every other guy wearing Black Watch and Royal Stewart. If I could afford it I'd design a new tartan and have it made every time the mood struck me to buy a kilt. I'm planning on an XMTS kilt when the fabric becomes available again. Seems to me that doesn't date too far back.
If all tartans have to have a centuries long history and originate in Scotland and be made of wool(etc. etc. etc.) all I can say is TRY to take away my US Army kilt...dare ya.
And if you don't like the look, or what it represents, who it's designed for, the fact that there aren't any 300 year old paintings of someone wearing it that's fine. You're not the one putting in the time to design it, spending the money to have it made, or buying it.
If it happens, I guarantee one purchase...mine. A kilt for me and something for the wife(the teacher who sacrifices her free time and buys half her class supplies herself, on a paycheck only marginally better than a McJob, because she believes in what she does and loves every day of it so much she hates summer).
I think you're arguing against something those opposed aren't necessarily espousing.
I like newly designed tartans. I am looking forward to the Louisiana tartan kilt I'm going to have made shortly. My grandfather designed a tartan for our family to wear even though we have clan affiliations. I don't have issues with occupational tartans per se... but it's not necessary and if it came out, I'd see it as a marketing ploy by whatever tartan manufacturer copyrighted it.
I think my main problem is that I think the concept is a little trite. Call it over-proliferation if you want. I don't mind having your own personal tartans, but why does there need to be a tartan for every single label?
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29th May 10, 02:15 PM
#49
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that this thread is to see who is interested in a Teachers tartan. I think it would be a more productive thread with a simple Yea or Nay. And if you would have interest in ACTUALLY getting a tartan woven if a design could be agreed upon. There has been enough previous discussion on other threads about what everyone thinks about tartan proliferation.
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29th May 10, 02:58 PM
#50
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Semiomniscient
Aye, but then why don't we design a tartan for the school instead of trying to make some such universal tartan for teachers?
I wanted a general tartan so as to attract more people willing to by. I am pretty sure if I made a tartan for Sand Ridge Jr. High School (where I work) I would be the only one buying it.
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