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28th November 07, 10:23 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by Makeitstop
But as for the farm land, sell it, keep it, I don't really care. As long as no one actually takes it against the owner's will I have no objections either way.
Personally, I'm opposed to overdevelopment, so I'm naturally sympathetic to the farmer and here there should be objections even if he wants to sell it. It's a protected area and the local council is obligated to consider its protected status before deciding to OK development. I somehow think the only green they thought about was dollars (ok, ok pounds) and not nature...
I realize jobs are importat too but how many jobs will be created for townspeople and how many will be created for workers that the place will ship in seasonally? And I know the place will create large tax revenue's, but at what cost?
Ok, I'll now get off my environmentally-friendly soap box
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29th November 07, 05:04 AM
#2
I don't want to get too political here but I feel that must add my $.02.
I am in favor of Mr. Forbes, he is a farmer and those guys are getting scarce these days. The land is his and he should be able to with it what he pleases. I won't comment on this until I pay the taxes and or mortgage; it's just not my business. I am naturally suspicious of any rich developer/industrialist simply because of what I perceive as a built-in sense of avarice. This whole affair smacks of the eminent domain issue. The fact that Mr. Trump is famous(infamous) merely raises the stakes a little. I don't know whether or Scotland needs another golf course but I see this as a matter between two non-public concerns.
What makes me nervous is the propensity we have to involve "The Government" in what is essentially a private matter. It seems that when a situation arises that we disagree with and is beyond our immediate control, we turn to our public agencies to step in and make it right for us. While this may solve an immediate problem it sets a precedent for future governmental meddling whether asked for/ needed or not. I believe that we can find justification and rationalization for any point of view if we look long and hard enough (think O.J Simpson ). We may win the battle at hand but the ultimate cost exacts a high price.
This is not what our ancestors regarded as the American Spirit and it is just what many of our immigrant forebears came here to escape. The power that exists in a democratic form of government come from us, the people and when we willingly give up some of that individual responsibility we transfer it to the government. This, in effect, greases an already slippery slope.
Now that I have completed my diatribe I would like to say that it is respectfully submitted here with the highest regard to the members of this online community. This is my opinion and I certainly do not wish to be contentious, simply because we should be able to speak our minds without it. I realize that I have probably stayed far off topic and I willingly accept any action that the moderators see fit to take take.
Thanks,
Bob
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29th November 07, 02:05 PM
#3
Well, according to BBC News the Aberdeenshire Council has rejected Mr. Trump - by a margin of one vote. Here is the story - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7118105.stm
The trump folks are saying they may appeal or they may "go do something spectacular elsewhere - just not in Scotland". The arrogance of these idiots. I'd say good riddance!
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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29th November 07, 02:42 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by starbkjrus
Well, according to BBC News the Aberdeenshire Council has rejected Mr. Trump - by a margin of one vote.
Huzzah!
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30th November 07, 11:30 AM
#5
Well Trump could certainly lodge an appeal in which case there will need to be a Public Inquiry and since he has got the money he might just decide to do this. Though maybe now he will take the hint that many people in Scotland simply do not want him coming here to ruin a beautiful area of the country. If people want to play golf in a fine scenic setting in Scotand they are weclome to come and play the plenty of good golf courses we have already, along the Ayrshire coast around Troon and Prestwick there are six or seven courses, we have Carnoustie, St. Andrews, etc. and for those who can afford it the course beside Loch Lomond and the one at Gleneagles.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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30th November 07, 11:51 AM
#6
Amazingly, Trump's just spoken on BBC Scottish News and said there the people are rioting in Scotland against the decision to refuse his golf course and that he has overwhelming support. What a load of rubbish. He does have some support among the Aberdeen business community but I think he will find the vast majority of Scots don't want him coming here disfiguring our countryside. I'd never heard of this guy Trump until this golf course controversy started. Is he really such a complete idiot that he just can't accept that his development is not wanted?
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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30th November 07, 01:31 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by cessna152towser
Is he really such a complete idiot that he just can't accept that his development is not wanted?
Yes... He is an egotistical self absorbed moron who finds great joy in reducing all of life's subtleties into a quest for more cash.
Oops... did I say that out loud?
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30th November 07, 01:40 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by pdcorlis
Yes... He is an egotistical self absorbed moron who finds great joy in reducing all of life's subtleties into a quest for more cash.
Oops... did I say that out loud? 
Loud & Clear! (...and correctly as well.)
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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1st December 07, 02:38 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by pdcorlis
Yes... He is an egotistical self absorbed moron who finds great joy in reducing all of life's subtleties into a quest for more cash.
Oops... did I say that out loud? 
Someone had to. "lol" Most of us were thinking it anyway.
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14th December 07, 05:09 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by pdcorlis
Yes... He is an egotistical self absorbed moron who finds great joy in reducing all of life's subtleties into a quest for more cash.
Oops... did I say that out loud? 
How true... I'd subsitute something untypeable for "moron", but yep, that's what he is...
-J
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